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		|  10-23-2008, 11:02 AM | #1 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  So my question about "Mad Men"?  The one about Betty's unspoken motivations?  About lunch with Arthur?  The one that got no responses?  Yeah, well, nevermind, I got my answer, no thanks to you lot. |  I don't remember the question, but I'd be curious to know what the answer is.
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		|  10-23-2008, 11:41 PM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by taxwonk  I don't remember the question, but I'd be curious to know what the answer is. |  My question related to Betty's motivation to arrange a lunch with Sarah Beth and Arthur and then not to show up. My three hypotheses were (1) Betty wanted to make Sarah Beth feel attractive and was trying to do something nice; (2) Betty wanted to see if she could use a man's attraction to her to manipulate him, but she had no interest beyond seeing if she could yank Arthur's chain; or (3) she was in such pain over Don that she wanted to make Sarah Beth feel miserable by inducing her to succumb to tempation with Arthur so that she wouldn't be the only one with a broken home.
 
That was an open question until the last episode.  SPOILER ALERT.  What we learned in the Mountain King episode was that it was 3, with a bit of scientific curiosity about Why People Cheat.  I interpret her phone call with Sarah Beth to mean she wanted to find out whether people cheat on nice spouses that they love, and the answer she got was yes. And that cheaters suffer too, which is what she needs to know to forgive Don -- at the expense of her own innocence.
 
ETA that the story arc is The Great Gatsby reset in Midcentury Modern and with Peggy playing the Sam Waterston character.  Which is nice because it's never been well adapted for the screen, but bad because it means Don Will Have To Die.
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		|  10-24-2008, 12:09 AM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  My question related to Betty's motivation to arrange a lunch with Sarah Beth and Arthur and then not to show up. My three hypotheses were (1) Betty wanted to make Sarah Beth feel attractive and was trying to do something nice; (2) Betty wanted to see if she could use a man's attraction to her to manipulate him, but she had no interest beyond seeing if she could yank Arthur's chain; or (3) she was in such pain over Don that she wanted to make Sarah Beth feel miserable by inducing her to succumb to tempation with Arthur so that she wouldn't be the only one with a broken home.
 That was an open question until the last episode.  SPOILER ALERT.  What we learned in the Mountain King episode was that it was 3, with a bit of scientific curiosity about Why People Cheat.  I interpret her phone call with Sarah Beth to mean she wanted to find out whether people cheat on nice spouses that they love, and the answer she got was yes. And that cheaters suffer too, which is what she needs to know to forgive Don -- at the expense of her own innocence.
 
 ETA that the story arc is The Great Gatsby reset in Midcentury Modern and with Peggy playing the Sam Waterston character.  Which is nice because it's never been well adapted for the screen, but bad because it means Don Will Have To Die.
 |  4- Betty needed to remove the temptation, because she knew she was about to blow up her marriage.
 
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		|  10-24-2008, 12:24 AM | #4 |  
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		|  10-24-2008, 12:26 AM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by ltl/fb  I see these movies with bad parents, and I think I should adopt. |  I knew I would regret friending you on Facebook -- I just didn't know exactly why. |  
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					Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch  I knew I would regret friending you on Facebook -- I just didn't know exactly why. |  Did we go to high school together?  Eric?  Stop hitting on me.  Or are you the sambucca sipper?
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					Originally Posted by ltl/fb  Did we go to high school together?  Eric?  Stop hitting on me.  Or are you the sambucca sipper? |  Atticus, i predict, is a girl drink drunk, not a sambuca sipper.
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		|  10-24-2008, 01:18 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by ltl/fb  Did we go to high school together?  Eric?  Stop hitting on me.  Or are you the sambucca sipper? |  I'm the one with the penetrating glare and the double chin.  Not the Chicago tax lawyer; the other one. |  
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		|  10-24-2008, 01:08 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  4- Betty needed to remove the temptation, because she knew she was about to blow up her marriage.
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 |  I gather that you were at Harvard during the brief regrettable period in which they replaced Gatsby in the undergraduate canon with How Stella Got Her Groove Back . |  
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		|  10-24-2008, 08:40 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  4- Betty needed to remove the temptation, because she knew she was about to blow up her marriage.
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 |  Totally wrong.  Betty wasn't attracted to Arthur.  Too Judge Reinhold. |  
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		|  10-24-2008, 09:10 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by robustpuppy  Totally wrong.  Betty wasn't attracted to Arthur.  Too Judge Reinhold. |  Speaking of Judge Reinhold, I happened to surf past a show on WB and he was on it playing a washed-up private detective.  The show Easy Money was crap at moments but held my attention with some surprisingly clever moments.  It stars Roseanne's TV sister.  The scenes with her and the leading man (her son) were well-written and acted, IMO.  Of course, I haven't watched it since but it seemed to have some potential.
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		|  10-24-2008, 11:13 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sparklehorse  Speaking of Judge Reinhold |  
MOCK TRIAL WITH J. REINHOLD! MOCK TRIAL WITH J. REINHOLD!
 
I miss that show.
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					Originally Posted by robustpuppy  Totally wrong.  Betty wasn't attracted to Arthur.  Too Judge Reinhold. |  on a board where tyrone posts all the time, i feel that is a really shitty thing to say.
 
yesterday I had a limo driver to the airport that was fucking nuts. i actually thought at one point he was threatening to kill me.
 
anyway, he was talking about our new terminal and how there are stains on the carpet already- he goes, "all these people crowding up at Starbuck's and McDonald's like they're getting ready for the electric chair."
 
wonderful phrase, one that I've not heard before.
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