Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Interesting story, but I think we're all just waiting to see a new Hank avatar.



TM

I noticed their spelling was similar.

S_A_M

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Secret_Agent_Man

I noticed their spelling was similar.

S_A_M

ah, but according to dtb I date realdolls, not escorts. fwiw realdolls don't call the police, nor do they call their owners weird, even though every owner is.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

So you're saying a playoff isn't as inclusive as it should be in an ideal world where teams don't get to pick their regular season games, so it doesn't work even though you have the exact same problem right now? Sounds like you're just arguing to have a bigger playoff pool.

TM

I think what he's saying is that the current monopoly created by the major conferences is worse than the prior monopoly created by the major conferences in which not only did they pre-assign who was in the bowls, they also preassigned which bowls they went to.

I really don't see why any of this is so hard. Take the six conference champions. Take the highest ranked team from outside those conferences. Take the next highest ranked team after that (whether in the six or not, so it could be Texas or it could be Boise St. this year). Seed 'em, play 'em, and award a giant trophy with dollar bills floating down like confetti on the college presidents.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

But the issue isn't really sharing the wealth, because the majors would do as well if not better with a playoff system. Sure, the money would be spread more ways, but they'd be more of it for them as well.

That is at best an assumption.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

So you're saying a playoff isn't as inclusive as it should be in an ideal world where teams don't get to pick their regular season games, so it doesn't work even though you have the exact same problem right now? Sounds like you're just arguing to have a bigger playoff pool.

I am just giving you the argument that will be made. Personally, I don't care whether Boise State is left out of the current one game playoff or the soon to come eight game playoff.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Secret_Agent_Man

I noticed their spelling was similar.

S_A_M

Strangely enough, though, she is a much better writer. Given that we are lawyers, that means we have to believe her side of the story, right?

ETA: Oops. You meant Hank's spelling is similar to the Slappy Professor's.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

That is at best an assumption.

bowl games often undersell. I'm getting several emails trying to sell me tickets to MSU's bowl game, it isn't sold out. If we were in a playoff that day I think it would sell better. the problem will be the next week's game if we win the first. in an 8 team playoff the 3rd game will be easy to sell out.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

bowl games often undersell. I'm getting several emails trying to sell me tickets to MSU's bowl game, it isn't sold out. If we were in a playoff that day I think it would sell better. the problem will be the next week's game if we win the first. in an 8 team playoff the 3rd game will be easy to sell out.

MSU must have shitty fans,* then, because any SEC, ACC, or Big XII team would have the fans lined up in RVs ready to go. The Pac-10 perhaps not, but they have the rockies to cross. If the first games aren't on campus, you do regions, and it's even easier to do than with basketball, since you know there's one in the west (LA, SF, Seat, Phoenix), one in the midwest (Minn. Stl., or Indy), one in the southwest (Dallas, Houston, San Antonio) and one in the south (New Orleans, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville)


* Oops, I should point out that this is another problem with the "100 years of tradition bowl system"--there are too many bowls featuring crappy teams. Every team with a winning record gets to play, so it's nothing special. The payouts are tiny on these games. It usually costs the university money to play. They do it for the extra practice time that it allows, not because they get anything in return.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

MSU must have shitty fans, then, because any SEC, ACC, or Big XII team would have the fans lined up in RVs ready to go. The Pac-10 perhaps not, but they have the rockies to cross. If the first games aren't on campus, you do regions, and it's even easier to do than with basketball, since you know there's one in the west (LA, SF, Seat, Phoenix), one in the midwest (Minn. Stl., or Indy), one in the southwest (Dallas, Houston, San Antonio) and one in the south (New Orleans, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville)

I'm saying that playoffs would sell better than the current bowls, contrary to Adder's contention.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

bowl games often undersell. I'm getting several emails trying to sell me tickets to MSU's bowl game, it isn't sold out.

Would MSU even have a bowl game if there was a playoff system? If it did, would it sell more or fewer tickets?

And if the playoff game was Boise State against Troy State, how much tv revenue would it generate?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I'm saying that playoffs would sell better than the current bowls, contrary to Adder's contention.

My contention was that there are factors that cut in both directions and it isn't clear which would sell better.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I'm saying that playoffs would sell better than the current bowls, contrary to Adder's contention.

Absolutely. And if you keep the rest of the bowl games in some pre-playoff weeks, the sales won't be any worse, because it will still attract teh same fans that care about an otherwise meaningless game.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Adder

And if the playoff game was Boise State against Troy State, how much tv revenue would it generate?

Are you kidding? The TV contracts are years in advance, and they're not being sold on having Troy State/Boise matchups yearly. And, if you have this matchup it's because both teams are great, and viewers will tune in.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

bowl games often undersell. I'm getting several emails trying to sell me tickets to MSU's bowl game, it isn't sold out. If we were in a playoff that day I think it would sell better. the problem will be the next week's game if we win the first. in an 8 team playoff the 3rd game will be easy to sell out.

I've been getting e-mails weekly telling me to hurry, before the tickets to the Texas Bowl (Rice vs. Western Michigan) sell out.

ETA: apparently Notre Dame declined the gracious invitation, opting to go to Hawaii instead.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

Would MSU even have a bowl game if there was a playoff system? If it did, would it sell more or fewer tickets?

We would probably be in fewer bowls, but would be in one this year. I assume the playoffs would take up some of the current bowl games, so the lesser teams (of which MSU is one) would appear less frequently.

And if the playoff game was Boise State against Troy State, how much tv revenue would it generate?

given how playoffs are seeded that won't happen unless one of them is somehow number 1.