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Old 12-29-2008, 12:43 PM   #3106
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Well, by the time the game was in the second quarter, the Jets were only playing to put New England in the playoffs (Baltimore had what, a 2 TD lead by then?). Not a huge incentive, frankly. Particularly for Mangini.

I disagree that Philly is the team that you don't want to see in the playoffs. NFC maybe (though both Carolina and Giants probably could handle them easily -- frankly the top 2 in the NFC are far better than anyone else in that division). I think that both of the Wild Cards in the AFC are the teams you don't want coming to your stadium.
I think that you will eat your words. That is all.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:53 PM   #3107
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I'm just saying there was a team that was playing to get in and a team that wasn't. I don't think they threw the game (this is so obvious I don't even feel like I should have to say it), but emotion has a fair amount to do with performance in big games. It was a really big game for exactly one of those teams for probably 3 quarters of the game.

(And criticizing Favre for forcing balls in to spots that are high risk is like admitting that you haven't watched 90%+ of his games over the last 10 years or so. Oh, maybe I've said too much.)
This is interesting but largely irrelevant. The 2008 season is history. What matters is 2009. With Singletary now firmly at the helm -- he of the Winning Half-Season (the best we can ask for these days) -- the 49ers of Old will rise from the ashes like the mythical phoenix.

No, really. I mean that. I'm confident. Who needs a star QB anyway? Last time we knew who our QB would be next season was the end of 2006, and look where that went.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:01 PM   #3108
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I think that you will eat your words. That is all.
I think Eagles fans are patently ridiculous (and vacillate wildly between calling for the firing of your QB and coach and considering yourselves the team to beat). The Cowboys hand you a win and all the sudden you are the team to be scared of? Um ok. From ESPN, if you'd like to think about Week 16 for a moment:
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I'll give you that the Giants don't want to play you, but it isn't because the Eagles are a better team than the Giants or because the Eagles are suddenly a hot team, it is because it is always a danger to play a divisional team in the playoffs. They both know each other too well.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:02 PM   #3109
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From the researchers who brought you proof that "chicks look better when you've had a couple of beers":

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So are you saying Favre or Mangini tanked at that point? From the snippets I saw (thanks NFL broadcasting rules that kept us in Baltimore!), Mangini probably didn't order Favre to throw balls right into the hands of Miami defensive linement.
Favre also put quite a few balls in the hands of his own receivers that they managed to drop.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:26 PM   #3111
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I think Eagles fans are patently ridiculous (and vacillate wildly between calling for the firing of your QB and coach and considering yourselves the team to beat). The Cowboys hand you a win and all the sudden you are the team to be scared of? Um ok. From ESPN, if you'd like to think about Week 16 for a moment:

I'll give you that the Giants don't want to play you, but it isn't because the Eagles are a better team than the Giants or because the Eagles are suddenly a hot team, it is because it is always a danger to play a divisional team in the playoffs. They both know each other too well.
I'm not so sure the Cowboys handed the win to the Iggles, so much as the Iggles ripped it out of their hands, but whatev.

I agree that Iggles fans are patently ridiculous, but no more ridiculous than any other set of fans. We love our birds. We hate our birds. We are proud that we booed Santa. We are ashamed that we both love and hate Andy Reid.

But I think you should be careful of saying that the Giants can handle the Eagles... a team they split with this season, in 2 close games.

All the stars in heaven had to align for the Eagles to even make the post-season. It seemed impossible. And then it happened. Right now, it almost feels like the Gods like Philly.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:26 PM   #3112
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This is interesting but largely irrelevant. The 2008 season is history. What matters is 2009. With Singletary now firmly at the helm -- he of the Winning Half-Season (the best we can ask for these days) -- the 49ers of Old will rise from the ashes like the mythical phoenix.

No, really. I mean that. I'm confident. Who needs a star QB anyway? Last time we knew who our QB would be next season was the end of 2006, and look where that went.
That SF win yesterday cost me first place all by myself in the weekly pick 'em. Still I'm rather proud of having picked 13 right yesterday. My best performance of the season (half season! I only started playing mid-year, just like the Niners!) came in Week 17.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:52 PM   #3113
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From the researchers who brought you proof that "chicks look better when you've had a couple of beers":

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Did you consider it obvious that "pledgers" would be much less likely to use condoms and birth control than "non-pledgers" with similar views about sex?
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:54 PM   #3114
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That SF win yesterday cost me first place all by myself in the weekly pick 'em. Still I'm rather proud of having picked 13 right yesterday. My best performance of the season (half season! I only started playing mid-year, just like the Niners!) came in Week 17.
You went against the Resurgent Niners? For shame.

This time, it's for real. Honest.
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Did you consider it obvious that "pledgers" would be much less likely to use condoms and birth control than "non-pledgers" with similar views about sex?
I don't know that they've established a clear link between the two, but the correlation certainly doesn't bode well for the God Squad.
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Old 12-29-2008, 01:55 PM   #3116
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You went against the Resurgent Niners? For shame.

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Old 12-29-2008, 01:59 PM   #3117
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That SF win yesterday cost me first place all by myself in the weekly pick 'em. Still I'm rather proud of having picked 13 right yesterday. My best performance of the season (half season! I only started playing mid-year, just like the Niners!) came in Week 17.
the lions left two of the three people who had been running the team with millen in place. One guy was promoted to GM. how do you keep your job if you're part of building an 0-16 team?

Anyway, next year you'll have 1 easy pick every week again. You're welcome.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:06 PM   #3118
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the lions left two of the three people who had been running the team with millen in place. One guy was promoted to GM. how do you keep your job if you're part of building an 0-16 team?

Anyway, next year you'll have 1 easy pick every week again. You're welcome.
I hope this doesn't come off sounding mean or cruel or petty, but I thought it was pretty well established by now that normal rational thought does not apply to the greater Detroit area. I mean, if it did, no one would ever live there, but yet, there they are, suffering without even realizing that there are other places to live. Places where the sun shines its goodness year round, where victory celebrations generally do not result in the deaths of the participants/passersby, places where you are generally at least two or more steps away from disintegrating into the Thunderdome or Waterworld or Snake Pliskin territory. Places like Nebraska. Wouldn't that be a step up?
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:44 PM   #3119
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I hope this doesn't come off sounding mean or cruel or petty, but I thought it was pretty well established by now that normal rational thought does not apply to the greater Detroit area. I mean, if it did, no one would ever live there, but yet, there they are, suffering without even realizing that there are other places to live. Places where the sun shines its goodness year round, where victory celebrations generally do not result in the deaths of the participants/passersby, places where you are generally at least two or more steps away from disintegrating into the Thunderdome or Waterworld or Snake Pliskin territory. Places like Nebraska. Wouldn't that be a step up?
i bet we have more bowling alleys per capita than California.
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i bet we have more bowling alleys per capita than California.
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