Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Huh. I wonder if they're actuallly using the seat cushions as floatation devices. I can't imagine that the Hudson is very warm right now.

video had some of them with the little packaged inflatable life jackets around their necks.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

video had some of them with the little packaged inflatable life jackets around their necks.

My boyfriend has been watching MSNBC for the last half hour.

• Hit a flock of geese
• Everyone is off the plane
• Pilot is a god
• Ferry boats were on the scene within minutes throwing lifejackets at the passengers (I guess no need for using the seat cushion).
• A tugboat has been helping to keep the plane afloat until people could be rescued
• plane didn't start sinking until they got most people off
• Took four minutes for boats to get there
• Injuries, but likely cold-water related
• May be the first water landing of a commercial jet liner. No one can remember another.
• FAA saying no deaths.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

May be the first water landing of a commercial jet liner. No one can remember another.

I was told at one point by a credible source that I could ignore the instructions "in the unlikely event of a water landing" because there had never been a survivable water landing in the jet age because the stall speed of a jet is too high to remain intact. Yet there's this, the one in DC in the early '80s, and the one at the beach in Aruba or whereever where the drunk hijackers ran the plane out of fuel -- they're always showing that guy's vacation video of the crash on those World's Wildest etc. TV shows. People died in both of those, but a small number survived.

So it appears the advice is either that there's never been a fully-survivable water landing of a passenger jet until today, or that there's never been one on the open ocean. YMMV, indeed.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

the one in DC in the early '80s,

that was really more a bridge landing, with a rebound into the water.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

I was told at one point by a credible source that I could ignore the instructions "in the unlikely event of a water landing" because there had never been a survivable water landing in the jet age because the stall speed of a jet is too high to remain intact. Yet there's this, the one in DC in the early '80s, and the one at the beach in Aruba or whereever where the drunk hijackers ran the plane out of fuel -- they're always showing that guy's vacation video of the crash on those World's Wildest etc. TV shows. People died in both of those, but a small number survived.

So it appears the advice is either that there's never been a fully-survivable water landing of a passenger jet until today, or that there's never been one on the open ocean. YMMV, indeed.

the Hudson is pretty polluted, isn't it? maybe it's close to being land?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

the Hudson is pretty polluted, isn't it? maybe it's close to being land?

Don't think you would want to hit land belly-first.

[Penske_Account]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

the Hudson is pretty polluted, isn't it? maybe it's close to being land?

I've swam it. Sliightly more viscous than Lake MI, but not exactly a solid.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

May be the first water landing of a commercial jet liner. No one can remember another.

so the safety instructions are just made up? did they have a contest to come up with them?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

so the safety instructions are just made up? did they have a contest to come up with them?

I thought it was not unprecedented for a plane to skid off a runway upon takeoff or landing and end up in the water.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I thought it was not unprecedented for a plane to skid off a runway upon takeoff or landing and end up in the water.

Indeed.

[Replaced_Texan]

H. Res. 68

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. RES. 68
Supports the establishment of an NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision Championship playoff system in the interest of fairness and to bring parity to all NCAA teams.

ETA, my favorite recital:

Whereas the declaration of the winner of the BCS Championship Game as National Champion has annually instigated heated debate about whether the victor is actually the best team in the NCAA;

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Whereas the declaration of the winner of the BCS Championship Game as National Champion has annually instigated heated debate about whether the victor is actually the best team in the NCAA:

if they achieve this can they maybe look at getting us some certainty in President and Senate elections maybe?