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Old 01-19-2009, 05:28 PM   #4081
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I don't know whether they "deserve" a puppy, but getting a puppy is admittedly an entirely different proposition from getting a dog, with its own costs and benefits. And it's been a while since I had a dog of my own, but I think precious few trainers would recommend that a busy family with kids and lots of travel in their future who are first-time dog owners should get a rescue purebred. A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws. Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.

I think a Labradoodle is a designer mutt. No idea whether it's in the sweet spot, but the name makes me TUALBIMM.
I think they need a puppy.

Just so it can pee on all the stuff Bush left.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:55 PM   #4083
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I don't know whether they "deserve" a puppy, but getting a puppy is admittedly an entirely different proposition from getting a dog, with its own costs and benefits. And it's been a while since I had a dog of my own, but I think precious few trainers would recommend that a busy family with kids and lots of travel in their future who are first-time dog owners should get a rescue purebred. A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws. Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.

I think a Labradoodle is a designer mutt. No idea whether it's in the sweet spot, but the name makes me TUALBIMM.
know your role:

The dog gods of the Zoraterists, purebreds or mutts?
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:39 PM   #4084
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And it's been a while since I had a dog of my own, but I think precious few trainers would recommend that a busy family with kids and lots of travel in their future who are first-time dog owners should get a rescue purebred. A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws. Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.

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I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed.

In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.

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I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed.

In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.

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I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed.

In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.

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I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed.
I'm sorry for your loss. It is an amazing privilege to have been master to, and companion of, a good dog.
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Thanks all

I appreciate the nice words. Its harder than I thought it would be. 12 1/2 years is a long time, and of course with the reflection that death triggers comes reflection on everything the passing of such time has meant and resulted in. good. and. bad.

Of course, I wouldn't have traded him for any other. [sniff] [sob] [sigh]
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I appreciate the nice words. Its harder than I thought it would be. 12 1/2 years is a long time, and of course with the reflection that death triggers comes reflection on everything the passing of such time has meant and resulted in. good. and. bad.

Of course, I wouldn't have traded him for any other. [sniff] [sob] [sigh]
Losing a long-time pet is much harder thanyou can imagine if you haven't gone through it. When my first cat died after 14 years, I was so upset I had to go home from work. I used to think I saw her out of the corner of my eye.

I am very sorry for your loss. How are the kids taking it?
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A mutt puppy would be the sweet spot -- a dog that might otherwise be unwanted but is less likely to have a purebred's genetic flaws. Puppy experience; less of the purebred's downsides.

I think a Labradoodle is a designer mutt. No idea whether it's in the sweet spot, but the name makes me TUALBIMM.
But with allergies you can't get any old mutt puppy -- you have to get one that work with allergies. That's why they're going with a Labradoodle -- a designer mutt (Labrador/poodle cross, hence the cutsie name) that people with allergies generally can have withotu getting sick. That puts it in the sweet spot for them.
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Inaugural fashion

Not my favorite of the outfits I've seen her wear. It looks a little matronly for her.

And my "her" I mean Michelle. Laura B. has always looked kind of matronly.
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How about them Cardinals??
Better question. How does McNabb not complete that slant on 3rd and 10 with the game on the line? What a ridiculously horrible pass. Just pathetic. If you can't complete that pass, you don't deserve to ever win a Superbowl.

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I knew a wildly genetically flawed purebred yellow labrador from a puppymill in Missouri. An at-that-time soon-to-be busy family who were first time dog owners became his owner. He survived being lead poisoned, epileptic (with seizures of a frequency of 10-12/hour for weeks), double hip dysplasia and hip recontruction surgery in his first 6 months of life, but, he had a good soul, was very loyal and ended up surviving to be a great friend and perfect (in lots of imperfect ways) pet for over 12 years....until this morning...he's missed.

In my experience any dog can be a great pet, its a large measure of what the people put into the relationship. I wish the Obamas luck and joy in the dog that they get.

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So sorry man. I'm glad that you and he had a long and happy time together.
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Not my favorite of the outfits I've seen her wear. It looks a little matronly for her.

And my "her" I mean Michelle. Laura B. has always looked kind of matronly.
has Michelle gained weight since the election, or is it the angle?

also, at the risk of being hurtful, and I apologize if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Penske had a dog. I think he is just trying to curry favor, and get back in people's good graces.
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