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		|  12-11-2009, 04:03 PM | #1 |  
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				Time to drink your gin-and-tonic-ah
			 
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		|  12-11-2009, 04:14 PM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  go for it |  Goodness, I've fallen behind.
 
Let me just say that I never would have bet that Fugee would be the first to respond about the benefits of waxing.  How the world does change -- I remember the olden days, when Fugee thought waxing was for cars, and Adder thought he needed to be nice to everyone.
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		|  12-11-2009, 04:29 PM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by ABBAKiss  Okay, I will try to streamline this.  Even with the chaotic details you will be provided here I am leaving out a LOT of the drama and ick.  Everyone below is in AA and attends the same meetings so is in frequent contact. 
McDouche dated NiceGirl about 6 years ago for perhaps 10 months.  He cheated on her and treated her like crap.  She ended up in counseling over him for years.  She eventually moved on, and moved to Louisiana.
 
ABBAKiss starts going to AA in 2006, while drinking every day for about 4 months.  In March 2007, McDouche has a heart to heart with ABBKiss and convinces her to stop drinking.  A torrid love affair begins.
 
Disgusting drama....BABYKiss...blahblahblah
 
NiceGirl moves back to MN and starts dating NiceHotGuy in 2008.  NiceGirl and ABBAKiss become unlikely friends.  They are much alike.  They hang out, just the two of them and in groups that include NiceHotGuy.
 
ABBKiss and McDouche have chaos.  NiceGirl dumps NiceHotGuy, or he dumps her, or anyway, they break up right before Thanksgiving.  NiceHotGuy and ABBAKiss start talking....and hanging out...and McDouche causes a big scene when he finds NiceHotGuy at ABBAKiss's house.
 
So, anyway, now McDouche is all pissed (good, whatever) for various reasons.  But ABBAKiss does not want to upset NiceGirl.  She has now essentially taken two of NiceGirl's exes.  
 
ABBAKiss needs to talk to NiceGirl about this. NiceGirl has no idea ABBAKiss and NiceHotGuy are dating.  
 
Ideas on how to approach?  And yes, all four of us are in the same meetings together, although this will likely have to change. 
 
BTW, sorry about the third person.  How annoying.  Ick.
 
Oh -- and I have been drinking again.  Only NiceHotGuy knows this.  McDouche would FREAK if he knew.
 
So, CHAOS!!!!!    |  First and foremost, you need to find another meeting, and maybe even look into outpatient rehab depending on how bad you think your alcohol problem really is. Obviously, the one you're currently attending isn't working, and McDouche's presence there--not to mention everyone else's--means that you're going to be distracted.  Work on your AA stuff in a separate context from all of the other stuff.  And you have a really good reason to explain to everyone else: you've cut him out of your life to the extent possible, and you need to be in a different meeting than he is in. 
 
I realize, of course, that this is easier said than done. But then so is all of the really hard stuff in life.  You're really awesome at giving great dieting and exercise advice, in order to look great and maintain a healthy lifestyle.  Think of separating yourself from this group of people to really work on your alcohol issues as another factor in maintaining a healthy lifestyle. 
 
As for the dramatic incest, are you all actually dating or just sort of hanging out?  I'd tread very carefully here.  If it looks like just a fling, then maybe she doesn't need to know more than the fact that you guys are hanging out.  If it looks like its going to be something bigger, let her know about it.  Especially if she's eventually going to find out from someone else, like the newly irritated McDouche.  
 
My particular group of friends can be very incestuous, and it generally doesn't cause any problems but sometimes it's a huge, huge issue where sides are taken, feelings are hurt, and the dynamic changes.  No one has any "right" to any other person, but that doesn't mean that dating someone's ex is going to be consequence-free.
 
I wish you the most happiness through all of this.  I think that having a good friend who you can share experiences with and can trust to understand you is really important.  I also think that a good healthy relationship can be awesome.  And I hope that you can have both.
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		|  12-11-2009, 05:15 PM | #4 |  
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				Re: Time to drink your gin-and-tonic-ah
			 
 Speaking of gin and tonic-aaaahs.  Tomorrow  here in SF.  I got my suit in the mail last week.
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		|  12-11-2009, 05:21 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by LessinSF  Speaking of gin and tonic-aaaahs.  Tomorrow  here in SF.  I got my suit in the mail last week. |  Hipsters are the biggest posers and have no personal identity or originallity. Trying to act like other people, trying to act all cool and nun plussed all the time is extremeley lame and as uncool as it gets. All that posing must be exhausting.
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		|  12-11-2009, 05:24 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  Hipsters are the biggest posers and have no personal identity or originallity. Trying to act like other people, trying to act all cool and nun plussed all the time is extremeley lame and as uncool as it gets. All that posing must be exhausting. |  Yeah, getting beaten by the Carmelites is a terrible fate.
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		|  12-11-2009, 05:26 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  Hipsters are the biggest posers and have no personal identity or originallity. Trying to act like other people, trying to act all cool and nun plussed all the time is extremeley lame and as uncool as it gets. All that posing must be exhausting. |  Oh GREAT, just what little kids need to see. Well done LOSERS. You are all sheep follwing a shephard. Just like critical mass, on your own you are goody two-shoes, but together you are big bad toughies. Bunch of weeners! |  
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		|  12-11-2009, 05:28 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by LessinSF  Speaking of gin and tonic-aaaahs.  Tomorrow  here in SF.  I got my suit in the mail last week. |  Have fun!  Say hi to the freaky Santas in the short bus if you run into them...
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		|  12-11-2009, 05:59 PM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Cletus Miller  Yeah, getting beaten by the Carmelites is a terrible fate. |  I thought nun plussed just meant nuns with benefits.  But the narrower sub/dom category works too.
 
Just keep a weather eye out for her whimple.
 
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		|  12-11-2009, 06:03 PM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by ironweed  Oh GREAT, just what little kids need to see. Well done LOSERS. You are all sheep follwing a shephard. Just like critical mass, on your own you are goody two-shoes, but together you are big bad toughies. Bunch of weeners! |  It must suck not having enough lunch money for beer.
 
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		|  12-11-2009, 06:05 PM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)  Hipsters are the biggest posers and have no personal identity or originallity. Trying to act like other people, trying to act all cool and nun plussed all the time is extremeley lame and as uncool as it gets. All that posing must be exhausting. |  Nine and a half words - Chicks drunk at noon with a built-in conversation starter.
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		|  12-11-2009, 06:11 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by LessinSF  Nine and a half words - Chicks drunk at noon with a built-in conversation starter. |  Sitting in my office at 6:15 on Frirday, trying to make myself do work that I should have finished this afternoon, I am feeling way to old for that.  Which is really depressing. |  
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		|  12-11-2009, 06:24 PM | #13 |  
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				Re: Time to drink your gin-and-tonic-ah
			 
 Happy Hanukkah, everybody! 
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		|  12-11-2009, 07:11 PM | #14 |  
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				Re: Time to drink your gin-and-tonic-ah
			 
 I need a life more like ABBAs.  But somewhere warmer. 
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		|  12-11-2009, 10:03 PM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by ltl/fb  I need a life more like ABBAs.  But somewhere warmer. |  Yesterday my travels took me through one time zone, 1000 miles and 62 degrees of temperature change.
 
I left 88 degrees at 6PM, and entered 26 degrees at 930 pm.
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