A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

oh, and I need to bug you guys for another thing- the old ball and chain is now a minister in some interweb thing so she can marry her cousin to the woman's lady. trying to work out a ceremony is challenging. Any seemingly wise quotes about true love or whatever to toss in to get the missus through breaking her marrying cherry?

I can send you our wedding ceremony if you want. Lots of poems and stuff like that. No religion.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen

I can send you our wedding ceremony if you want. Lots of poems and stuff like that. No religion.

please do

[Hank Chinaski]

So I have 3 major lawsuits going with 3 New Jersey companies. The cases are all in the D but all 3 companies are working with (NYC area) NJ firms. It's like bizarro Federal litigation, all 3 firms do the strangest shit, and they disrespect Judges both as to time and intelligence. Do any of you practice there regularly? I hope I just got unlucky 3 times.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

So I have 3 major lawsuits going with 3 New Jersey companies. The cases are all in the D but all 3 companies are working with (NYC area) NJ firms. It's like bizarro Federal litigation, all 3 firms do the strangest shit, and they disrespect Judges both as to time and intelligence. Do any of you practice there regularly? I hope I just got unlucky 3 times.

No speaki this language but it sounds like you are asking if the District of NJ is a place that civilization has reached. The answer is no.

The NJ firms look to Chris Christie as their role model. The judges of the D of NJ remind me of what Cookie Monster would be like when faced with legal concepts:

"Me no likem general personal jurisdiction."

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

For the Jews: my kid is doing birthright in a few weeks- I tell the mom both sides have an interest in not harming American Jews- but wtf do I know? Anyone with experience with trips to the homeland during times of increased tension?

I wouldn't dream of going. Since about 1992.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

For the Jews: my kid is doing birthright in a few weeks- I tell the mom both sides have an interest in not harming American Jews- but wtf do I know? Anyone with experience with trips to the homeland during times of increased tension?

I've not been, but I'd suggest some perspective. Even with heightened tensions, is the Promised Land more dangerous than Detroit? That's an actual question as I don't know, but sometimes we put too much weight on the the risk of very low probability events, like terror attacks, especially in relation to the rather more dangerous things, like driving, that we do every day.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

I've not been, but I'd suggest some perspective. Even with heightened tensions, is the Promised Land more dangerous than Detroit? That's an actual question as I don't know, but sometimes we put too much weight on the the risk of very low probability events, like terror attacks, especially in relation to the rather more dangerous things, like driving, that we do every day.

In Detroit we are relatively safe on a crowded bus.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I wouldn't dream of going. Since about 1992.

Honestly? I would go every year if it was feasible.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

In Detroit we are relatively safe on a crowded bus.

Probably not as safe as in Israel.

I say probably only because bus fatalities are likely very, very uncommon in both places even accounting for attacks, while overall traffic fatalities are substantially higher in the U.S.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen

Honestly? I would go every year if it was feasible.

Tax guy. We're either crazy reckless or very risk-averse. I tend to the latter.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

oh, and I need to bug you guys for another thing- the old ball and chain is now a minister in some interweb thing so she can marry her cousin to the woman's lady. trying to work out a ceremony is challenging. Any seemingly wise quotes about true love or whatever to toss in to get the missus through breaking her marrying cherry?

I wrote this about officiating while I was planning my own ceremony: http://texaslawchick.livejournal.com/1053248.html I think most of it still stands, except we never had a love poem. If we'd had a poem, knowing our officiant it was likely going to be Rumi. I think our ceremony clocked in at 12 minutes.

I loathe Corinthians I, and I roll my eyes at every wedding where it's recited. If Bible is needed for some reason, go to the Song of Solomon. There's some sexy stuff in there.

This was our ceremony. Crib at will:

Introduction
Honored guests, We gather here today to participate in the union of RT and Graham. This is a profound act of love, faith, and courage. It is with great joy that I invite you all to participate in this ceremony.

Please take a minute to look around you at the others gathered here. We are the friends and family of RT and Graham. We are their community.

A community’s power is strong. It is our job to celebrate their relationship in good times and to bolster it during times of challenge. If you accept this important responsibility to support this union, please respond by saying “I will” “I will”

The meeting
[she talked about being there when we met. She'd been friends with us individually before we hooked up at Burning Man.]

Marriage Significance
From that magical beginning we have now come to this day. A day to create a ceremony to bind these two in love. In many ways, a marriage ceremony is fleeting. For yesterday, you were a man and a woman deeply in love; tomorrow, you will be a man and a woman deeply in love. But something will happen here today; something mysterious and sacred and unexplainable.

Joining your lives in partnership is an intentional decision, made with mutual respect and with a sense of reverence.

For many, marriage represents the ultimate intimacy between a man and a woman. But it is also something of a contradiction: this joining as one also affirms and strengthens the individuality of each partner.

In giving yourself freely to each other, you discover your freedom. As you grow together, so will each of you grow individually. Your commitment frees you to be who you really are. This is the blessing intimacy allows when respect and reverence characterize your decision to marry.

For in loving one another, you will be called in many unanticipated ways to help your partner to become all she or he can become. RT and Graham I have been a witness to this type of love in your relationship, and today we use this ceremony to confirm your love for on e another.

[There was a rose ceremony involving our mothers after this part.]

You have prepared vows to express your love and commitment to one another.

Vows
[we pulled out our phones and read our vows. A friend texted us in the middle of Graham's.]

Ring exchange
And now the rings! These rings made of metals and gems are only objects, We prescribe the their meaning. These rings will be a very special reminder for you of this day. Please exchange your rings.

I DOs
Now for the most important part DO you? Do you?

Proclomation
By the Power invested in me by the Great State of Texas I now pronounce you husband and wife.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I wrote this about officiating while I was planning my own ceremony: http://texaslawchick.livejournal.com/1053248.html I think most of it still stands, except we never had a love poem. If we'd had a poem, knowing our officiant it was likely going to be Rumi. I think our ceremony clocked in at 12 minutes.

I loathe Corinthians I, and I roll my eyes at every wedding where it's recited. If Bible is needed for some reason, go to the Song of Solomon. There's some sexy stuff in there.

This was our ceremony. Crib at will:

Introduction
Honored guests, We gather here today to participate in the union of RT and Graham. This is a profound act of love, faith, and courage. It is with great joy that I invite you all to participate in this ceremony.

Please take a minute to look around you at the others gathered here. We are the friends and family of RT and Graham. We are their community.

A community’s power is strong. It is our job to celebrate their relationship in good times and to bolster it during times of challenge. If you accept this important responsibility to support this union, please respond by saying “I will” “I will”

The meeting
[she talked about being there when we met. She'd been friends with us individually before we hooked up at Burning Man.]

Marriage Significance
From that magical beginning we have now come to this day. A day to create a ceremony to bind these two in love. In many ways, a marriage ceremony is fleeting. For yesterday, you were a man and a woman deeply in love; tomorrow, you will be a man and a woman deeply in love. But something will happen here today; something mysterious and sacred and unexplainable.

Joining your lives in partnership is an intentional decision, made with mutual respect and with a sense of reverence.

For many, marriage represents the ultimate intimacy between a man and a woman. But it is also something of a contradiction: this joining as one also affirms and strengthens the individuality of each partner.

In giving yourself freely to each other, you discover your freedom. As you grow together, so will each of you grow individually. Your commitment frees you to be who you really are. This is the blessing intimacy allows when respect and reverence characterize your decision to marry.

For in loving one another, you will be called in many unanticipated ways to help your partner to become all she or he can become. RT and Graham I have been a witness to this type of love in your relationship, and today we use this ceremony to confirm your love for on e another.

[There was a rose ceremony involving our mothers after this part.]

You have prepared vows to express your love and commitment to one another.

Vows
[we pulled out our phones and read our vows. A friend texted us in the middle of Graham's.]

Ring exchange
And now the rings! These rings made of metals and gems are only objects, We prescribe the their meaning. These rings will be a very special reminder for you of this day. Please exchange your rings.

I DOs
Now for the most important part DO you? Do you?

Proclomation
By the Power invested in me by the Great State of Texas I now pronounce you husband and wife.

That is nice too thank you.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

No speaki this language but it sounds like you are asking if the District of NJ is a place that civilization has reached. The answer is no.

The NJ firms look to Chris Christie as their role model. The judges of the D of NJ remind me of what Cookie Monster would be like when faced with legal concepts:

"Me no likem general personal jurisdiction."

If lawtalkers had a "like" button, this would be "liked" by me. Carry on.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

oh, and I need to bug you guys for another thing- the old ball and chain is now a minister in some interweb thing so she can marry her cousin to the woman's lady. trying to work out a ceremony is challenging. Any seemingly wise quotes about true love or whatever to toss in to get the missus through breaking her marrying cherry?

Rilke