Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Sorry, moderate islam is to blame. If you fail to opt out of that fairy tale nonsense, you're as to blame as the guy with the gun.

You can't say that without noting all religions are fairy tales.

They are. Oh yes... This is not up for debate.

Jews a chosen people? Nonsensical horseshit. Jesus the son of God? Absolute fantastic bullshit. Rising from the dead? Lunatic fantasy. Muhammed a prophet? Again, only as true as Santa Claus.

It's just that simple. There may be some creating force out there, that is arguable. What is beyond debate is, if it exists, it has absolutely no connection of any kind to the silly man-made gibberish of organized religion. We all know that. Every sane person has always known that.

You aren't going anywhere when you die. Be a rational animal and use this knowledge to reach the only reasonable, humane conclusion: That you should be decent to everyone else around you who is similarly enjoying the only consciousness he ever will, and enjoy the ride yourself!

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You can't say that without noting all religions are fairy tales.

They are. Oh yes... This is not up for debate.

Jews a chosen people? Nonsensical horseshit. Jesus the son of God? Absolute fantastic bullshit. Rising from the dead? Lunatic fantasy. Muhammed a prophet? Again, only as true as Santa Claus.

It's just that simple. There may be some creating force out there, that is arguable. What is beyond debate is, if it exists, it has absolutely no connection of any kind to the silly man-made gibberish of organized modern religion.

You aren't going anywhere when you die. Be a rational animal and use this knowledge to reach the only reasonable, decent conclusion: That you should be decent to everyone else around you who is similarly enjoying the only consciousness he ever will, and enjoy the ride yourself!

Be excellent to each other! Party on, dudes!

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Sounds like yes.

Sorry, but does the police backing the fuck off have any negative effects? Seems entirely positive.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Sorry, moderate islam is to blame. If you fail to opt out of that fairy tale nonsense, you're as to blame as the guy with the gun.

This is dumb.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Just need a crack resurgence to bring real estate prices down.

This is also dumb, and the police state had nothing to do with receding crime.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You can't say that without noting all religions are fairy tales.

They are. Oh yes... This is not up for debate.

Jews a chosen people? Nonsensical horseshit. Jesus the son of God? Absolute fantastic bullshit. Rising from the dead? Lunatic fantasy. Muhammed a prophet? Again, only as true as Santa Claus.

It's just that simple. There may be some creating force out there, that is arguable. What is beyond debate is, if it exists, it has absolutely no connection of any kind to the silly man-made gibberish of organized religion. We all know that. Every sane person has always known that.

You aren't going anywhere when you die. Be a rational animal and use this knowledge to reach the only reasonable, humane conclusion: That you should be decent to everyone else around you who is similarly enjoying the only consciousness he ever will, and enjoy the ride yourself!

You've struck a truly bold blow for reason. Yawn.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

You've struck a truly bold blow for reason. Yawn.

Icky's point is worth expanding. If you have a useful insight someday, I may do the same.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

This is also dumb, and the police state had nothing to do with receding crime.

You don't know that. The effectiveness of broken windows and its successor programs is in dispute. And I say this as someone sympathetic to your position

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

This is dumb.

Only if you're reading his point in the narrowest possible way. If you've any capacity to run with what he's said, any capacity at all to read into what someone whose words you've been reading for over a decade might mean -- the expanded point he obviously implied -- they're anything but dumb. They are, in fact, about 100x more resonant than almost any of tortured logic you offer here every day.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

David Koresh created enough for both of them. Are we really going to play moral equivalency chicken? It's the same god, man. How do you get around that? It's the same God of Abraham.

??? We should all wish ISIS and AQ would follow Koresh.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

That's shallow data.

Ty's blog post listed 10 examples- they were all tied to Islamic terrorist. Deeper?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You can't say that without noting all religions are fairy tales.

They are. Oh yes... This is not up for debate.

Jews a chosen people? Nonsensical horseshit. Jesus the son of God? Absolute fantastic bullshit. Rising from the dead? Lunatic fantasy. Muhammed a prophet? Again, only as true as Santa Claus.

It's just that simple. There may be some creating force out there, that is arguable. What is beyond debate is, if it exists, it has absolutely no connection of any kind to the silly man-made gibberish of organized religion. We all know that. Every sane person has always known that.

You aren't going anywhere when you die. Be a rational animal and use this knowledge to reach the only reasonable, humane conclusion: That you should be decent to everyone else around you who is similarly enjoying the only consciousness he ever will, and enjoy the ride yourself!

you do realize that if we had readership, violent Islamists might come to kill you for this? Jews would reference you in a comedy routine.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

you do realize that if we had readership, violent Islamists might come to kill you for this? Jews would reference you in a comedy routine.

Oh yes, I'd be next in line after Ricky Gervais and Bill Maher.

The Jewish comedians would more likely reference Eddie Izzard, whose shtick I was channeling a bit there.

But in seriousness, my last point is earnest. You can be an old cynic and say people suck and are superstitious and need religious fantasy by nature, so reaching a form of universal secular humanist understanding like that is utopian fantasy. I accept that argument. But I do see us eventually evolving entirely beyond religion, and that's about the most hopeful future I can imagine.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Adder

This is also dumb, and the police state had nothing to do with receding crime.

People becoming bored with crack did.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You can't say that without noting all religions are fairy tales.

Actually you can because notwithstanding the fairy tale part, one religion is currently involved in a mass murder spree. But I am not.