A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I find this to be insane. Go with the absolute best play you have to get one yard immediately. Don't plan based on failure, especially when you have a timeout. If you don't get in, call a timeout and then reassess what your best play is based on where you are now and the fact that you no longer have a timeout. Don't try to be cute. This is the Superbowl. Get in the end zone. If you can't get there with Marshawn fucking Lynch, you lose.

TM

I was repeating something I said, that made sense to me. Generally I think we are all talking out of our asses here, as I don't think any of us have any experience as football coaches.

Overall, my sense is this: Seahawks lost. Yay.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

That movie was a hot mess. You gotta figure even the guys who write Bond sequences were like, “You shoot the guy and he falls into the helicopter blades? TOO MUCH.”

It was worth it for just the opening five minutes. Get the ball to Billy Cole. Ain't life a bitch?

And I was absolutely in love with Halle Berry at that point. At the very peak of her game. And by "game," I mean her looks.

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

But that scene where he punches the guy’s septum into his brain fucking kicked ass. Bruce Willis was the best action star of the past 30 years, bar none.

Now that's an interesting question. Let's stick with domestic.

Do you mean for quality of his/her best work? Might go for Bruce Lee (although that's kind of cheating since we really only have Enter the Dragon for domestic), Damon, or Harrison Ford.

Best action sequences in otherwise crappy movies? Statham, Stallone, Arnold, The Rock, or maybe even Jovavich.

For the sheer amount of good successful action movies? Maybe I go with Ford or Cruise over Willis.

Or are you talking just the best overall? I might still go with Harrison Ford. Star Wars trilogy, Raiders and Indiana Jones, Bladerunner, Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger. That's quite the resume.

TM

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Now that's an interesting question. Let's stick with domestic.

Do you mean for quality of his/her best work? Might go for Bruce Lee (although that's kind of cheating since we really only have Enter the Dragon for domestic), Damon, or Harrison Ford.

Best action sequences in otherwise crappy movies? Statham, Stallone, Arnold, The Rock, or maybe even Jovavich.

For the sheer amount of good successful action movies? Maybe I go with Ford or Cruise over Willis.

Or are you talking just the best overall? I might still go with Harrison Ford. Star Wars trilogy, Raiders and Indiana Jones, Bladerunner, Patriot Games and Clear and Present Danger. That's quite the resume.

Uh, you do realize “the past 30 years” has a hard stop at 1985? So get the fuck outta here with that Bruce Lee, Star Wars and Blade Runner shit. You get to play with Last Crusade and that Crystal Skull bullshit.

Cruise is a good point, though.

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Uh, you do realize “the past 30 years” has a hard stop at 1985? So get the fuck outta here with that Bruce Lee, Star Wars and Blade Runner shit. You get to play with Last Crusade and that Crystal Skull bullshit.

Cruise is a good point, though.

I think he meant Brandon Lee. All look same.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint

I think he meant Brandon Lee. All look same.

More likely that a man in his mid-40s hears “the past 30 years” as “my entire life.”

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

FWIW, I think the bigger error was in the 40 second clock burn than the decision to pass. If the intent was really to have use of all three downs, I'm not sure why cutting it so close time wise was a good idea.

Funny that people are saying that was a huge error on Belichick's part, since he wouldn't have had time left if (when) Seattle scored.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Yeh. I got to tell you what I would have done. I would have handed it to Mar-shawn fucking Lynch and told him to walk it in. You heard me. Walk. It. In.

Man's a beast!

He's the guy whose mom is always trying to feed Chunky soup, right?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

First, I think Carroll is covering for a call made by his offensive coordinator, which is classy of him.

Second, you could find people all over the internet yesterday arguing that it wasn't such a bad decision. I dunno, maybe they were all Pats fans, but I doubt it.

Third -- and this is not a reaction so much to you as to people like Tom Jackson after the game -- the way people are talking about that play call takes away from the players and the game. Wilson and Lockette didn't execute on that play, and Butler did. He made a hell of a play -- that wasn't foreordained. Brady played some great football to get the Pats the lead. Seattle made an awesome play call at the 2:02 mark to isolate Lynch on the lineback and get to midfield. Kearse's catch was stunning. Harping on the play call takes away from all of that, particularly in the way some people other than you put it.

Fourth, what people are saying is obviously hindsight bias.

Fifth, the Seahawks lost.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Uh, you do realize “the past 30 years” has a hard stop at 1985? So get the fuck outta here with that Bruce Lee, Star Wars and Blade Runner shit. You get to play with Last Crusade and that Crystal Skull bullshit.

Cruise is a good point, though.

I like your swag! But now may be a good time to remind you that real Gs move in silence like lasagna.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So I am now being asked to advise the sexual technologies industry. These conflict checks are going to be amusing.

A colleague once took on a case to enforce a patent on a certain kind of dildo. The box of allegedly infringing products she was provided was quite interesting.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

As much as I want to focus on that incredible Tom Brady 4th quarter where he shredded the amazing Seattle defense, and as much as I think the kid deserves a TON of credit for recognizing the formation and jumping in front of that pass, it is really tough to get past that play call. The game was over. Just give the ball to Lynch and watch the confetti fall. Carroll has always been cocky and brash. That decision at the end of the first half if a great example. The smart money kicks the field goal, but he is a swashbuckler and got rewarded for it. There was no need to be a swashbuckler, obviously, at the end of the game, but you cant make a leopard change its stripes. I think he wanted Wilson to be the hero, and at some level, wanted to rub Belichick, and more importantly, Kraft’s nose in his success. Sure, he could have jammed Lynch into the end zone, but a passing TD to win the Super Bowl has more panache.

If that is accurate, then it wasn't a dumb play.

It was Carroll being an asshole and getting served for it.

There is a difference, and the latter is much more satisfying.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint

Been there, done that (in 2002 ).

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Happy lawyering!

At the design conference I went to in November (side note: design conferences are way more fun than law conferences), I made friends with an industrial designer whose big products are high end vibrators made to be worn as necklaces. I haven't tried out her line yet, but they've gotten press from fast company and the like. Most probably RT approved.

ETA: link

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

At the design conference I went to in November (side note: design conferences are way more fun than law conferences), I made friends with an industrial designer whose big products are high end vibrators made to be worn as necklaces. I haven't tried out her line yet, but they've gotten press from fast company and the like. Most probably RT approved.

ETA: link

I'm going to be working on a different kind of technology here. Mostly pharmaceutical and chemical agents. Some high-tech food products. I was pulled in by the patent lawyer.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

At the design conference I went to in November (side note: design conferences are way more fun than law conferences), I made friends with an industrial designer whose big products are high end vibrators made to be worn as necklaces. I haven't tried out her line yet, but they've gotten press from fast company and the like. Most probably RT approved.

ETA: link

Do they have demos at these things?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You are really doing quite a dance. And I'm surely not arguing that you always go conservative.*

My argument isn't for running the ball with any team against any team just because it's the end of the game and you're in a short-yardage set. My argument is for giving it to your best player in a situation which plays into his absolute greatest strength. If the teams were switched, I would argue that Brady should be throwing the ball to Gronk. Go down with your best guys doing what they do best. Taking a stupid fucking risk because you want the possibility of an extra down if it doesn't work is just crazy when your best possible chance of scoring is something where you might lose that last down. If there was time for only two plays and they had no timeouts--although I think it would still be crazy to pass when you have the luxury of Marshawn Lynch on your team--I think you have a better argument for trying to force a quick pass.

Here's my exchange with a good friend of mine who is a Pats fan:

Me: Would love to hear your take on the Super Bowl.

Him: Pats dynasty. Is there some alternative view out there?

Me: Can’t take anything away from the Pats. They played a great game. But that call…

Him: I know, I know.

As much as I want to focus on that incredible Tom Brady 4th quarter where he shredded the amazing Seattle defense, and as much as I think the kid deserves a TON of credit for recognizing the formation and jumping in front of that pass, it is really tough to get past that play call. The game was over. Just give the ball to Lynch and watch the confetti fall. Carroll has always been cocky and brash. That decision at the end of the first half if a great example. The smart money kicks the field goal, but he is a swashbuckler and got rewarded for it. There was no need to be a swashbuckler, obviously, at the end of the game, but you cant make a leopard change its stripes. I think he wanted Wilson to be the hero, and at some level, wanted to rub Belichick, and more importantly, Kraft’s nose in his success. Sure, he could have jammed Lynch into the end zone, but a passing TD to win the Super Bowl has more panache.

Burned.
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Can't argue with this.

Look, when it comes down to it, when the game is on the line you go to your best possible option. If you truly believe that it made any sense at all to avoid the run in favor of a pass, then we just disagree. I just find it very hard to believe you actually do.

TM

*Hell, I think closers in baseball should be used at the moment in the game when you are most in danger of giving up the lead. If that's the 4th inning with the bases loaded and two outs, bring him in. Why wait to see if you may need him at the end of the game?

I also believe that these idiot coaches who go for two with tons of time left in any game are morons who almost always put themselves in danger of losing a close game. Put the guaranteed point on the board.

So I'm all over the map, admittedly.

So you don't care for numbers and analysis? Okay then.

But maybe you shouldn't call anyone else stupid?