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		|  02-02-2016, 11:16 PM | #3481 |  
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				Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
			 
 
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  If Bernie is not the nominee I do hope he runs third party. His fresh ideas need to be heard. |  I've been waiting for this confirmation of your socialism.  Well-played all these years, sir, well-played.
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		|  02-03-2016, 05:50 PM | #3482 |  
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					Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan  Are the Republicans going to remain so committed to their anti-choice position when babies with small brains that live for at most six horrible months start being born on a regular basis here? |  Yes.
 
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		|  02-04-2016, 01:54 AM | #3483 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  The Plame thing was total bullshit.  100% political nonsense.  
 What Hillary did is indictable.
 |  Seriously?  WTF is wrong with you?  Scooter Libby leaked Valerie Plame's identity for political reasons.  He made a conscious decision to burn her.  Hillary did no such thing.  She may have been stupid or reckless, but she at least facially complied with (stupid) rules about handling email.  Again: Libby intentionally burned someone, Clinton did not.  If you think that Libby should not have been prosecuted, what's the rationale for wasting any more brain cells on what Clinton did?  Do you really think that what she did was any worse than the federal handling of non-public information like the PII of myself and many other ex-federal employees, which was hacked by the Chinese?
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		|  02-05-2016, 11:58 AM | #3484 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  The Plame thing was total bullshit.  100% political nonsense.  
 What Hillary did is indictable.  But what's depressing isn't that she did it, or that she's since lied about it (she can't open her mouth without lying).  What's depressing is the "crime" is a grotesque overreach.  Clearly, Hillary did not intend to put sensitive material in the hands of enemies.  She intended only to enjoy truly private correspondence which could not be searched.  She should go to jail for having the electronic equivalent of secret conversations behind closed doors?
 
 It's said the average person accidentally commits three felonies a day, and the state, by criminalizing almost everything, and eliminating proof of bad intent, has set up a scenario where anyone it wants to put behind bars can be, upon investigation, found guilty of something.  For politicians, I'd say that number jumps to 10 felonies a day.
 
 It's an irritating game of "gotcha" enabled by legislators who think the cure for every problem is another law, and prosecutors who use their offices as political assassination squads.
 
 I'm glad Cheney skated, and I hope she skates.  (But... If you want to put Cheney on trial for the Iraq War, I'm all for it.  That ought to be prosecuted instead of silly shit like the Plame affair.)
 |  Public officials do not have "private" correspondence where their public duties are concerned. Her correspondence in her official capacity is supposed to be discoverable and reviewable. That's sort f the rules of the game.
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		|  02-05-2016, 04:59 PM | #3485 |  
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					Originally Posted by taxwonk  Public officials do not have "private" correspondence where their public duties are concerned. Her correspondence in her official capacity is supposed to be discoverable and reviewable. That's sort f the rules of the game. |  Whatever one wants to set as rules of the game, there is no reasonable way to conduct diplomacy without some back-channel secret communications.  It's simply the way things have to work - there may need to be one conversation where someone approaches the administration off the record to figure out what the reaction would be if they then approached the administration on the record.
 
This has been the way of diplomacy for thousands of years.  If we decide that's not how we'll play, then someone else will need to take on the most sensitive negotiations and we'll have to step to the sidelines on them.
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		|  02-08-2016, 10:46 AM | #3486 |  
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				Re: Speaking of Satan....
			 
 So who is everyone going to vote for in their respective primary?
 I'm going for Auntie Hill myself.
 
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		|  02-08-2016, 10:48 AM | #3487 |  
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  So who is everyone going to vote for in their respective primary?
 I'm going for Auntie Hill myself.
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		|  02-08-2016, 11:32 AM | #3488 |  
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					Originally Posted by Adder  Do you think there are any Bernie Bros among us? |  Here are my predictions:
 
Slave: Cruz, is there a bigger ass to vote for? 
TaxWonk: Bernie, of course 
Ty: Hill, with reluctance, because she's not perfect 
TM: Hill, but in a close call 
Sidd: O'Malley, for the win!  
Sebbie: Christie, for the brawling 
Hank: Bush, unless a duller candidate comes along 
RT: Hill, I mean, who da biggest policy wonk in the field!? 
Dtb: Hill, regardless of the boys.   
Les:  Bernie, now that Paul has dropped 
Atticus:  Trump - the man just discussed land-use regulation in a debate!
 
So I'm betting at least a couple of votes for Bern here.
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		|  02-08-2016, 12:38 PM | #3489 |  
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  Whatever one wants to set as rules of the game, there is no reasonable way to conduct diplomacy without some back-channel secret communications.  It's simply the way things have to work - there may need to be one conversation where someone approaches the administration off the record to figure out what the reaction would be if they then approached the administration on the record.
 This has been the way of diplomacy for thousands of years.  If we decide that's not how we'll play, then someone else will need to take on the most sensitive negotiations and we'll have to step to the sidelines on them.
 |  That's the beauty of the spoken word and the handwritten note. They are more easilykept back-channel.
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		|  02-08-2016, 01:03 PM | #3490 |  
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					Originally Posted by taxwonk  That's the beauty of the spoken word and the handwritten note. They are more easilykept back-channel. |  I guess Hill, or Colin, or Condi could have done diplomacy by snap-chat
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		|  02-08-2016, 04:42 PM | #3491 |  
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  So who is everyone going to vote for in their respective primary?
 I'm going for Auntie Hill myself.
 |  Clinton, if for no other reason than by double-default.
 
First default, because she's the only Dem I can take seriously as a candidate or as a potential President.
 
Second default, because Sanders will be out by then, so even if I were remotely interested in voting for him I wouldn't have the option.
 
Perhaps I'll cross party lines and vote for Trump, just for shits and giggles.
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		|  02-09-2016, 05:56 PM | #3492 |  
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					Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy  Here are my predictions:
 Slave: Cruz, is there a bigger ass to vote for?
 TaxWonk: Bernie, of course
 Ty: Hill, with reluctance, because she's not perfect
 TM: Hill, but in a close call
 Sidd: O'Malley, for the win!
 Sebbie: Christie, for the brawling
 Hank: Bush, unless a duller candidate comes along
 RT: Hill, I mean, who da biggest policy wonk in the field!?
 Dtb: Hill, regardless of the boys.
 Les:  Bernie, now that Paul has dropped
 Atticus:  Trump - the man just discussed land-use regulation in a debate!
 
 So I'm betting at least a couple of votes for Bern here.
 |  It's like I don't even exist.  It's like I never existed.  What the fuck kind of big brother bullshit is this?  Good luck with your war on Eurasia.
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		|  02-09-2016, 06:34 PM | #3493 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower  It's like I don't even exist.  It's like I never existed.  What the fuck kind of big brother bullshit is this?  Good luck with your war on Eurasia. |  oh, you missed it. they figured you were my sock, so you fall in the hank slot. two reasons: 1 we were the only two posters that paigow would consider marrying and 2 we both hate obama but we let slave down by (besides stealing paig's heart  ) not posting hate posts here every day.
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		|  02-09-2016, 08:06 PM | #3494 |  
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					Originally Posted by sidd finch  clinton, if for no other reason than by double-default.
 First default, because she's the only dem i can take seriously as a candidate or as a potential president.
 
 Second default, because sanders will be out by then, so even if i were remotely interested in voting for him i wouldn't have the option.
 
 
 Perhaps i'll cross party lines and vote for trump, just for shits and giggles.
 |  2
 
There's a lot to like about what Sanders wants to do, but he's not running for Legislator In Chief.
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		|  02-09-2016, 09:35 PM | #3495 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower  It's like I don't even exist.  It's like I never existed.  What the fuck kind of big brother bullshit is this?  Good luck with your war on Eurasia. |  FWIW, I still love you, man.
 
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