I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

We cool.

As a peace offering, I haven't been following all the slam Afro Funk y'all been laying down, but I've always liked King Sunny Ade, even if he may be a little tame for you youngsters. https://youtu.be/30dwP1PI0C0?list=PL3F514B058BCC5378

Nothing wrong with Old School. Brings a smile.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

This one just completely dismays me. Pure tea partyesque move.

[Icky Thump]

Never On No Sunday

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

This one just completely dismays me. Pure tea partyesque move.

I swear, Sanders and his people have turned into the extreme purist holier-than-thou types that mirrors the Tea Party.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

I swear, Sanders and his people have turned into the extreme purist holier-than-thou types that mirrors the Tea Party.

Spoken like a corrupt, in-the-tank corporate flunky.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

In Chicago, New York, and cities all over the country, activists are using abandoned lots and blighted areas to guerilla garden (this is one way to combat food deserts without massive farms that, really, Sidd, don't do anything to actually feed people).

You realize that those guerilla gardens are incapable of providing food to more than an absolute de minimis number of people, right?

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Smaller businesses that are part of the community may initially lead to further isolation for minorities, but that isolation will acts an incubator for creating jobs, adding to the small economy, and making communities more attractive to and accessible to outsiders, which should eventually lead to more diversity in communities.

Can you fill in the gaps in how you got from point A to point B, please?

TM

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

(this is one way to combat food deserts without massive farms that, really, Sidd, don't do anything to actually feed people).

I considered echoing your response to GGG, about condescension. But, really -- when someone says something like "massive farms... don't do anything to actually feed people," and suggests that we will feed an ever-growing world population through community farming in abandoned city lots, it's hard to do anything but laugh.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Can you fill in the gaps in how you got from point A to point B, please?

TM

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...9o0&ajaxhist=0

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

I considered echoing your response to GGG, about condescension. But, really -- when someone says something like "massive farms... don't do anything to actually feed people," and suggests that we will feed an ever-growing world population through community farming in abandoned city lots, it's hard to do anything but laugh.

As someone who had to milk the damn animals at quarter of five in the morning when I was a wee one, I am very happy that there are other people out there to do the farming for me. And I pity any of them who try to make a living off of it without assistance from Comrade John Deere, a man who did much to liberate us.

I'm all for community gardens in cities and using abandoned lots, but, ah, I'm also all for that really good smokey blue cheese I like on some rice crackers with a few dates and a glass of port. cheers!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

That or, perhaps more probable, this moron's campaign reports show significant donations from private prison companies.

Let's not dismiss the possibility that both could be true.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You realize that those guerilla gardens are incapable of providing food to more than an absolute de minimis number of people, right?

Can you fill in the gaps in how you got from point A to point B, please?

TM

The guerilla gardens only supply small amounts of fresh produce, but it's more than they had before. Think of them as demonstration project, proof of what can be done when people take more ownership of their lives. Now think of all the vacant lots, abandoned buildings, and rooftops that are being used for nothing but hang-outs used by people with far less positive influence on the community.

Take a look at Bronzeville, in Chicago. A renaissance in black-owned businesses initially drew almost exclusively black customers, but over time, Bronzeville has extended the overall economic growth and diversity of Chicago's South Loop. Another example is Savannah's Starland District, where a group of black owned businesses started out serving the black, mostly poor West Side. The area has grown into one of the fastest growing neighborhoods in Savannah, with restaurants, art galleries, and other retail shops are mixing with auto shops and antique stores that used to be salvage and junk furniture stores that used to provide furnishings and building materials for people who couldn't afford any better into thriving restoration and vintage materials sources for people doing rehabs in the Historic District.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

I considered echoing your response to GGG, about condescension. But, really -- when someone says something like "massive farms... don't do anything to actually feed people," and suggests that we will feed an ever-growing world population through community farming in abandoned city lots, it's hard to do anything but laugh.

Well, then by all means, let them eat textured soy protein.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Well, then by all means, let them eat textured soy protein.

A friend was in a band called Mock Duck. They served mock duck during their performances. No idea if that is soy. I'm tired and need a little something to soothe the troubles. In other words, today's Daily Dose. Rufus with Chaka Khan. Tell Me Something Good, and she does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm_cFzVAoo8

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

A friend was in a band called Mock Duck. They served mock duck during their performances. No idea if that is soy. I'm tired and need a little something to soothe the troubles. In other words, today's Daily Dose. Rufus with Chaka Khan. Tell Me Something Good, and she does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm_cFzVAoo8

I put on Was (not) was, you put on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Well, then by all means, let them eat textured soy protein.

Or bread, or rice, or apples, or carrots, or any of the other things that are grown on large-scale farms.

The nations that are able to feed their people and export food are those that have moved to large-scale agriculture. The ones living off of small-holder farms cannot come close to keeping up with population growth.

The ones that are living off of micro-greens grown in abandoned urban lots? Those don't exist. Though they might have to, if the "let's burn down the banks and tear down the cities" crowd prevails.

As I've said: There are plenty of reasons to change or eliminate farm subsidies so that they don't give so much incentive to corn syrup and the like. But that's a very, very different thing than your "let's all live off of family farms" bullshit.