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Old 07-06-2016, 05:39 PM   #571
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Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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look. This is draggin on long enough.

You want to control banks? We already have them by the short and hairies.

American commercial banking is almost completely dependent on the fed's window to make money. It sets their cost of capital, provides them liquidity, and pretty much creates their entire business for them. Just condition access to the window on banks doing X and they'll do X. Whether X is blowing Roger Ailes or making funds available to poor people, though, frankly, they'd prefer to blow Roger.
I'm confused, was Gretchen Carlson trying to open a bank?
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Old 07-06-2016, 05:51 PM   #572
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You're not looking at Trump's true base, which these days is far more likely to wave the stars & bars than they are the Mogen David.
While not all of Trump's supporters are anti-Semites and white Supremacists, he is pretty much the exclusive candidate of choice for those populations. And he actively solicits their support. How many times can someone accidentally retweet a neo-Nazi? I and like conservatives are branded "Cuckservatives" by Trump supporters solely because we are not sufficiently supportive of the white race.

As much as I detest Kasich, I would vote for him in the general if the delegates were successful in the #DumpTrump/#FreeTheDelegates movement of being able to vote their conscience instead of the candidate to whom they are "bound". Kasich kills Hillary in the polls. I might even want him to come out of the convention rather than Cruz, if only because of the certainty of a win by Kasich. I could hold my nose and vote for him as I did McCain and Romney. Trump is absolutely not a lesser evil than Hillary. I am leaning towards concluding that Gary Johnson might be the least of the evils, but I still haven't decided what I am going to do.
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:06 PM   #573
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I'm also out of here. Fuck this place and fuck all you motherfuckers. I quote National Review articles and y'all respond to me like I wrote that shit? Jesus. Fucking. Christ. I'm not on Facebook, so I guess this is goodbye. Also, if you're wondering why the opening exclamation from today's Daily Dose sounds familiar ("Are you ready?"), it's because it is sampled in Justin Timberlake's Bringing Sexy Back. Now why are y'all listening to Timberlake? That's some fucked up bullshit, and you're dancing around in your house when nobody else is there, acting like you actually are bringing sexy back and shit. That nonsense is an independent reason why I am totally out of here. Nobody should have to put up with that type of behavior from the other posters in an online lawyer chatting board. I'm gone. Forever. The Daily Dose is Eddie Bo with Hook and Sling, Parts 1 & 2. That guitar lick is so damn funky. Peace out. Good riddance.

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Old 07-06-2016, 06:23 PM   #574
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I agree, and I have tried to alternate between more obscure funk 45s and more established artists such as James Brown, the Meters and the various P-Funk incarnations. That said, I have tried to avoid moving into the disco genre, although the lines are certainly blurred. Mainly, I have attempted to keep roughly within a 1968-75 time frame. What I think of as, for lack of a better phrase, roots funk.
All funk is good funk.
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I realize I'm just a simple country tax lawyer
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but last time I checked players were free to bid or not bid on a financing.
You want a big bank to bid on a billion dollar financing in multiple tranches. $300 million at 4%, another $100 million at 3% with smaller banks, and $50 million at 2.5% with even smaller banks in the syndicate. Why would a bank do this for the same credit? Are we forcing Borrowers to structure the loans with different types of collateral every time to take that into account?

Whatever. This conversation is silly. Join me and Sidd and PLF over at the bar where we can all talk about Hank behind his back. Crap. Hold on. It's Moth night.

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Old 07-07-2016, 10:04 AM   #576
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the certainty of a win by Kasich.
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Wow. Sounds like he was really careless, about something of limited import, nothing top secret, but still careless.
I think that the whole email saga sums up nearly all of the concerns I have about Secretary Clinton.

1. Setting up a private email server was a bad idea, regardless of whether or not Colin Powell (and Condi Rice? Honestly don't remember.) used a private email account as Secretary of State. Why did she do it? My guess is that, based upon her 20-plus years of being under the microscope of hostile and partisan investigation, she wanted to stay in control of the information that would be used against her. Understandable, sure. Still a really bad idea. Surely people told her that, and just as surely, she rejected their advice not to do it.

This is probably why corporate litigators, who -- if I may use a stereotype -- are instinctually inclined to withhold all of a client's documents as is possible under the rules (or even somewhat beyond the rules) don't make good choices in dealing with political scandals and "scandals."

2. Not making sure that the private email server was properly secured - physical security and cyber security. Presumably she delegated this, but it's on her.

She's not always relied on the right people. Mark Penn. Dick Morris (IIRC, she encouraged Bill to bring him back into the fold in 1995-96 to help rescue a re-election campaign that was viewed as toast after the Gingrich Revolution.) Sidney Blumenthal.

3. Having shifting explanations and justifications for her use of a private email server.

Sigh. It's like it's 1997-98 all over again. And whatever one thinks about her explanations to the press and public, at least she (apparently) didn't lie to the FBI. Even if one sets aside the intent issue and the "this stuff wasn't really secret" aspect of the information that was found in her emails, this is what distinguishes her situation from the General Petreaus case.

Anyway. Carry on.
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I'm also out of here. Fuck this place and fuck all you motherfuckers. I quote National Review articles and y'all respond to me like I wrote that shit? Jesus. Fucking. Christ. I'm not on Facebook, so I guess this is goodbye. Also, if you're wondering why the opening exclamation from today's Daily Dose sounds familiar ("Are you ready?"), it's because it is sampled in Justin Timberlake's Bringing Sexy Back. Now why are y'all listening to Timberlake? That's some fucked up bullshit, and you're dancing around in your house when nobody else is there, acting like you actually are bringing sexy back and shit. That nonsense is an independent reason why I am totally out of here. Nobody should have to put up with that type of behavior from the other posters in an online lawyer chatting board. I'm gone. Forever. The Daily Dose is Eddie Bo with Hook and Sling, Parts 1 & 2. That guitar lick is so damn funky. Peace out. Good riddance.

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Another black man shot dead after a traffic stop for a broken tail light. I feel like I can say with complete certainty that more black males have been shot to death by police after being stopped for having broken tail lights than the entire universe of people who have been injured or killed as a result of someone driving around with a broken tail light. Do I know exactly what went down before the woman started shooting the video? No. But it looks really fucking bad. Watch the video. It is really disturbing. Today's Daily Dose is the Isley Brothers. Fight the Power, Parts 1 & 2:

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Do I know exactly what went down before the woman started shooting the video? No. But it looks really fucking bad.
It looks terrible.
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It looks terrible.
So Trump is going to stand by Article 12 of the Constitution.
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They'd resell loans to Trump's casinos in exchange for chips if it was a condition of window access.
Imagine that. To hear some tell it, you'd think that any change at all is near impossible.
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While not all of Trump's supporters are anti-Semites and white Supremacists, he is pretty much the exclusive candidate of choice for those populations. And he actively solicits their support. How many times can someone accidentally retweet a neo-Nazi? I and like conservatives are branded "Cuckservatives" by Trump supporters solely because we are not sufficiently supportive of the white race.

As much as I detest Kasich, I would vote for him in the general if the delegates were successful in the #DumpTrump/#FreeTheDelegates movement of being able to vote their conscience instead of the candidate to whom they are "bound". Kasich kills Hillary in the polls. I might even want him to come out of the convention rather than Cruz, if only because of the certainty of a win by Kasich. I could hold my nose and vote for him as I did McCain and Romney. Trump is absolutely not a lesser evil than Hillary. I am leaning towards concluding that Gary Johnson might be the least of the evils, but I still haven't decided what I am going to do.
Cruz is Trump with a slightly thicker veneer.
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Yeah. This is tiresome.

You want a big bank to bid on a billion dollar financing in multiple tranches. $300 million at 4%, another $100 million at 3% with smaller banks, and $50 million at 2.5% with even smaller banks in the syndicate. Why would a bank do this for the same credit? Are we forcing Borrowers to structure the loans with different types of collateral every time to take that into account?

Whatever. This conversation is silly. Join me and Sidd and PLF over at the bar where we can all talk about Hank behind his back. Crap. Hold on. It's Moth night.

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What do you think W did to cause this?
"Every American should own a home..." Remember that? His "ownership society," or some crap like that? He doubled down on Clinton's silly effort to make shit borrowers into decent credit risks. But unlike Clinton, who had altruistic but naive aims, Bush knew better. At the time he was pushing for more home ownership, it was obvious people were cashing in on home equity to make up for wages they were losing, or to live beyond their means, or to flip homes. It was a lazy, risky, dumb way to to create economic gains and activity in an economy that hadn't been moving much since the tech collapse.

Credit Clinton and Obama for not doing much economically while they were in office. Bubba knew he had a good thing with the tech boom and took a hands off approach. Obama was given a seriously awful situation and stayed a conservative, sensible course where a lot of people in his position, with progressives clamoring for more aggressive interventionist measures might've done a lot more. (It's odd the market should blame so much volatility on "dithering" by Obama. The actual facts show a cautious, nearly Republican approach. The only thing he did to fuck things up a bit was the ACA, and he had no choice on that, as he'd promised it as a centerpiece of his agenda.)
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"Every American should own a home..." Remember that? His "ownership society," or some crap like that? He doubled down on Clinton's silly effort to make shit borrowers into decent credit risks. But unlike Clinton, who had altruistic but naive aims, Bush knew better. At the time he was pushing for more home ownership, it was obvious people were cashing in on home equity to make up for wages they were losing, or to live beyond their means, or to flip homes. It was a lazy, risky, dumb way to to create economic gains and activity in an economy that hadn't been moving much since the tech collapse.

Credit Clinton and Obama for not doing much economically while they were in office. Bubba knew he had a good thing with the tech boom and took a hands off approach. Obama was given a seriously awful situation and stayed a conservative, sensible course where a lot of people in his position, with progressives clamoring for more aggressive interventionist measures might've done a lot more. (It's odd the market should blame so much volatility on "dithering" by Obama. The actual facts show a cautious, nearly Republican approach. The only thing he did to fuck things up a bit was the ACA, and he had no choice on that, as he'd promised it as a centerpiece of his agenda.)
The housing bubble was a bad idea. The equivalent of using the G's Master Card to buy a war was a worse idea and a bigger factor. The housing bubble could have been staved off sooner and to a greater degree if he hadn't already blown his wad on avenging Dad.
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