I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

So Dump Trump has signatures from enough state delegations to force a floor vote on the rules package. The Secretary of the Convention is reportedly hiding, literally, behind a curtain and armed guards, to escape delivery of the petition.

Trump's people are on the floor allegedly threatening and intimidating those who signed the petition. The challenge will of course fail, but the delegates want the votes on the record.

As a small government conservative, I have obviously been pretty disappointed with the GOP for many years. It is now beyond shameful. In any case, Trump's new coalition is destined to fail spectacularly, and I will feel nothing but sweet, sweet Schadenfreude. He said he didn't need us and did not even want our support, while at the same time threatening those who opposed him.

ETA: They did the floor vote, forced it through and determined the Ayes had it even though it was pretty balanced. Refused a roll call vote. Chairman walked off the floor. State delegations are walking out. This is an entertaining dumpster fire. Frankly, it looks like they could use a registered parliamentarian.

Following twitter, it sounds like there is a coup d'toupee under way, but the leadership is confident they can repress it.

They're calling in the helicopters and personal jets now.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

If the coup d'toupee fails, there will be hell to pay.

Trump seems to be asking Baio to take control of the rules process, and purge the offenders.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

If the coup d'toupee fails, there will be hell to pay.

Trump seems to be asking Baio to take control of the rules process, and purge the offenders.

I am a wee bit skeptical. The rebels have been vanquished, but if the rebel forces were so weak in the first place, why not have a roll call that shows the overwhelming support for the candidate? Why harass the petitioners into fearing for themselves?


Oh. Yeah. That's why.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

2.

No, 3. Three peat! Wonked!

You're celebrating matching me. Think for a minute about how sad that is.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

I am a wee bit skeptical. The rebels have been vanquished, but if the rebel forces were so weak in the first place, why not have a roll call that shows the overwhelming support for the candidate? Why harass the petitioners into fearing for themselves?


Oh. Yeah. That's why.

What they need to do is line up the signatures on a new resolution now and go up to the sgt-at-arms knowing they have signatures to force a full written roll call. They need a new hook for that, so I'd make it a motion to suspend the rules or vacate the chair.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

You're celebrating matching me. Think for a minute about how sad that is.

come on, man, you are legend.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

What they need to do is line up the signatures on a new resolution now and go up to the sgt-at-arms knowing they have signatures to force a full written roll call. They need a new hook for that, so I'd make it a motion to suspend the rules or vacate the chair.

The RNC won't release the list of the names of the people who supposedly withdrew (following literal arm-twisting). The chair also conveniently appeared not to hear Senator Mike Lee screaming point of order when they announced the withdrawals. They were literally ignoring anything they didn't want to deal with. That's why the CO delegation walked out (unclear if they are returning) and Ken Cucinelli also threw down his credential and walked.

I am pretty sure the roll call should have happened under the convention rules. It was a bit hard to follow when the chair walked off the stage and a jazz band started playing.

[Hank Chinaski]

After Thursday Trump will be getting "classified security briefings." Anyone want to bet that he slips up and leaks something during a speech or interview?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

The RNC won't release the list of the names of the people who supposedly withdrew (following literal arm-twisting). The chair also conveniently appeared not to hear Senator Mike Lee screaming point of order when they announced the withdrawals. They were literally ignoring anything they didn't want to deal with. That's why the CO delegation walked out (unclear if they are returning) and Ken Cucinelli also threw down his credential and walked.

I am pretty sure the roll call should have happened under the convention rules. It was a bit hard to follow when the chair walked off the stage and a jazz band started playing.

Hardest thing to do is beat someone who gets to both make and enforce the rules. Times like this are when the hard core political operatives earn their keep.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Hardest thing to do is beat someone who gets to both make and enforce the rules. Times like this are when the hard core political operatives earn their keep.

It seems very Republican that the convention disturbance consisted of people raising their hands and shouting "Mr. Chairman! Point of order!"

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

It seems very Republican that the convention disturbance consisted of people raising their hands and shouting "Mr. Chairman! Point of order!"

I feel for the poor party hack who has to say, "Senator X, sir, I'm sorry, but fuck you, sir, that's out of order" knowing that Senator X may be the best place for them to get their next job after the Trump Clusterfuck is over.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

Wow. And to think, I wasn't even trying.

Yeah. That's kind of why it's so disgusting.

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

You.Are.Funny! The Hillary camp does this every day. Fuck, they specifically fundraise on this. We're now "Ready" for a woman. I guess the Dems weren't ready in 2008, when she was the presumptive nominee, far more qualified than Obama, and then got tossed out on her ear. But hey, forget that, NOW we are ready. Seriously. And NOW experience counts.

I'm sorry. What the fuck are you talking about? Your argument is that because the Democratic base preferred one candidate to another that means those who voted for him based that preference on his blackness over her status as a woman? That's the pecking order? You are off your fucking rocker.

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

Oh, and you can Google and screenshot in about 10 seconds about 1000 posts of "So excited to finally vote for a woman", "So excited to have a black man in the white house", etc. BTW, nothing particularly wrong with either of those sentiments, but for you to both deny its existence and then to scold me for stating the obvious is beyond silly.

No. Your argument is stupid on its face. Being excited at having someone other than a white man in the White House does not mean the most important factor in one's decision to vote for that person is the fact that they are not a white man. Get a fucking grip.

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Question: If white men scream in a convention hall, but the press is focused on Melania Trump's plagiarism, do they make a sound?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

You need to change your moniker to "Pauline Kael." Or get out of NYC more.

Pauline who?

I'll try to spend more time in small-minded, bigoted, dumbass areas of the country. Thanks for the advice!

TM

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Question: If white men scream in a convention hall, but the press is focused on Melania Trump's plagiarism, do they make a sound?

Who would have thought the RNC speaker with the most credibility would be Chachi?