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Old 10-24-2016, 11:58 AM   #11
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Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Libertarians are a better fit with Democrats. The social positions are much more aligned.
Disagree. Libertarians are not interested in setting up the protections required to protect those of us who face discrimination. This argument is in the same vein as those bullshit artist Republicans who say, "I'm socially liberal, but fiscally conservative." No you're not. Because there's no such thing. Whenever it comes down to actually funding support for those social issues you pretend you care about, you're nowhere to be found. And that's because you don't really care about them. All you care about is less taxes.

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But for whatever reason, the Libertarians who've made progress have done so within the GOP. So the most efforts are aimed at expending on those gains.
See above.

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Ideally, however, Libertarian ideals will infect both parties. And you can see some of that happening already with marijuana and gay marriage. At a state level, you can see it happening with tolerance for gambling as a legitimate industry.
I think you overstate the impact of what you're deeming "libertarian ideals." People who support (or don't block) gay marriage or marijuana aren't embracing libertarianism. They have (i) evolved into understanding that gay people are people and (ii) figured out that marijuana is no more harmful (and probably much less harmful) than the drugs we take which are currently legal, everyone is doing that shit already, and it is a great source of tax revenue.

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