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Old 12-22-2016, 05:44 PM   #3031
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I wasn't really paying attention to the substance of your debate because, like, totes boring, amirite??? I just saw you wondering what Sebastian was smoking and I was like, I think I probably got an idea. Just maybe. I know, right?? Anyhoo, James Brown Thursday on the Daily Dose, and JB actually has some Xmas themed tunes that I dig, and this is one of them. Santa Claus, Go Straight to the Ghetto. I mean, seriously!!!! Go there!

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The whole album is good. Was just playing it!
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Old 12-22-2016, 10:05 PM   #3032
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I just read his Twitter feed for the last few days, and you are completely full of shit. Find me a tweet that's like a left-wing Alex Jones -- for example, the left-wing version of denying that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy theory. Find me the craziest tweet from the last week, the one that you think is "cuckoo pants shit," whatever that is.
Dig a little deeper. And check out the week after the election. He was an emotional basket case.

And it goes beyond Twitter. He's been the Lena Dunham of economic pundits since the election. http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/20/...racy-theorist/

Bill Maher handled the election as it should've been handled. "It's done. I don't like it. But I'll deal with it." And he will. He'll slay Trump week in, week out. That's respectable. Someone remind Krugman, and everyone like him -- all of those who've taken to bleating -- there's strength in mockery. Whining and carping and crying foul is for weak, thin-skinned people. People like Trump.
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Old 12-22-2016, 10:11 PM   #3033
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We all knew Sebby would end up licking Trump's boots, didn't we?
The guy's having a moment. He's got a lot of power, and I think it's early to start assuming he's going to go down in flames. He's got a lot of advantages to piss away to do so. If anyone can fuck it up, he can, but assuming that's inevitable is unwarranted.

Otherwise, you got me! Zing! Fucking brilliant comment, as always.
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The whole album is good. Was just playing it!
this good?
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Old 12-22-2016, 10:18 PM   #3035
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He just lost the popular vote by 2% and got only 46%. He is the most unpopular incoming President since Neolithic times. He is staffing his administration with a bunch of hard-right ideologues who are preparing to do big things to the government and the economy that no one supports and that he actually ran against. And this is even before he is mugged by events that he can't control, like a recession or a natural disaster or a war. I suspect he'll cope a little better than some people think, because I don't discount the business and military experience of many of his employees, but I also don't think he's ever going to be popular. When one party gets control of the government, the country has a way of moving back to divided government.
The GOP is poised to pick up more seats in 2018. This will only expand their already significant ability to control the electoral college vote.

He only needs to keep the Rust Belt, which, I agree with you, he may lose if he doesn't bring back all those he promised.
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The GOP is poised to pick up more seats in 2018.
Huh? You can say this, like August 2018, not before.
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Old 12-22-2016, 11:59 PM   #3037
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Dig a little deeper.
How 'bout you dig deeper and find a single tweet that is Alex-Jones-deranged. Just one.

eta: Your every post about Krugman is what Atrios calls hippy bashing. I don't recall you engaging with what he says (until years later, like, he was tight about the war, but ....). The whole point is to dismiss him for his tone, for bleating, as he is the one acting like a sheep.
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Old 12-23-2016, 12:27 AM   #3038
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Huh? You can say this, like August 2018, not before.
Glass of blended scotch on the rocks minus $10. When Sebastian says something like, "The GOP is poised to pick up more seats in 2018" it is basically the same to me as him saying, "In 2018, antelope-men from a previously-undiscovered continent will take control of the governments of all the current world powers." Or, "2018 will be the year in which the long-awaited awakening of the Emperors of the Pinecones shifts the balance of power to Uranus." Or, "Happy scotch scotch pickled Steadman but beware the lizard people and their cannabis of distorted illusion so the peppermint bark pizza feet may again walk the land unfettered." You may be able to distinguish the subtle degrees of gibberish, but to me *mostly gibberish* is the same as *almost completely gibberish* is the same as *gibberish cubed*.
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Old 12-23-2016, 11:43 AM   #3039
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How 'bout you dig deeper and find a single tweet that is Alex-Jones-deranged. Just one.
I did. It was cited in the article: https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/stat...51823687368704 There are many more. Not as crazy, but as hysterical.

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I may be hippie punching a bit. But it's deserved. I actually like the guy when he sticks to lucid commentary. When he starts whining, he gets annoying, and he undercuts his message. There's a lot of shit to dislike about Trump. But the way to attack him is to make a strong argument. Rip his plans, or lack thereof, dismiss him as unqualified, and make fun of him. But for God's sake, don't sound like, to borrow from Maher's favored description of Trump through the campaign, a "whiny little bitch."

You don't see Stiglitz or Reich acting like emotional fifteen year olds, do you? Krugman should know better.
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Huh? You can say this, like August 2018, not before.
Being in position to capitalize at all is 50% of the battle:* https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b850568455bc
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Reagan won in a landslide. Trump, uh, didn't. Reagan had been governor of California and in politics for a long time. Trump hasn't. Reagan replaced an unpopular president. Trump isn't. Reagan had support to build the military and roll back regulation. If you think people want to cut Social Security, Medicare and even the ACA, I don't know what you're smoking.
If you think Trump has advocated rolling back SS or Medicare, I don't know what Trump you were viewing. He's been consistent in stating he won't cut benefits, just taxes. That's a much different variant of problematic position than the one you're describing.
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Merry Christmas to all, even the idiots. May you enjoy the Funk as you dance on the grave of the Republic!
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:53 PM   #3043
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I did. It was cited in the article: https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/stat...51823687368704 There are many more. Not as crazy, but as hysterical.
Give me a break. Here's what he said:

"Thought: There was (rightly) a cloud of illegitimacy over Bush, dispelled (wrongly) by 9/11. Creates some interesting incentives for Trump"

You can make that crazy, but only by jumping to your own crazy conclusions.

Meanwhile, Alex Jones, who Trump lauds, says Sandy Hook didn't happen.

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I may be hippie punching a bit. But it's deserved. I actually like the guy when he sticks to lucid commentary. When he starts whining, he gets annoying, and he undercuts his message. There's a lot of shit to dislike about Trump. But the way to attack him is to make a strong argument. Rip his plans, or lack thereof, dismiss him as unqualified, and make fun of him. But for God's sake, don't sound like, to borrow from Maher's favored description of Trump through the campaign, a "whiny little bitch."
I don't see him "whining." I do see you characterizing his tone instead of responding to what he says. Helpfully, when I point it out, you just do it again.
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If you think Trump has advocated rolling back SS or Medicare, I don't know what Trump you were viewing. He's been consistent in stating he won't cut benefits, just taxes. That's a much different variant of problematic position than the one you're describing.
Yes. So we'll see what happens when a Republican Congress does those things and he signs the bills. He's not exactly reining them in right now.
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The GOP is poised to pick up more seats in 2018.
Reminder: Your political prediction track record is terrible.
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