I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

This is garbage. I had this argument with Slave a few weeks ago. Sebby also parrots this bullshit.

You can call him whatever you want. It matters none. I don't care if at one point he voted for Jimmy Carter. The only thing that matters is what positions he takes as a Presidential candidate and now President Elect.

My best understanding of Trump is that he is whoever the people in whatever room he's currently in want him to be. When his whole world was NYC, he pretended he cared about things New Yorkers care about. Now that his "room" consists of the idiots in this country who like him, he is whatever they want him to be. And the people who like him are small-minded Republicans. Therefore he will argue that he's against abortion and take steps to curtail it, he will argue that Obama is not a legitimate President, he will appoint rightwing assholes to every cabinet position, he will embrace Breitbart and other bullshit white supremacist trash, he will destroy healthcare for people because that's what people who adore him want him to do. And that's all that matters.

The Republicans you mention who some might have thought had a bit of integrity in the past have exposed themselves as political cowards. They were against him when they thought he'd bring the Party down. Now they suck his tiny dick because they're scared of what his Vienna sausage-like Twitter fingers can do.

So, pretend all you want that he isn't a Republican or a conservative or whatever. But you're right. You guys own him now. The small-minded idiots who make up the vast majority of the Republican Party love him. The question now is, based on where your party actually is, are you a Republican?

TM

You are absolutely right about Trump and the despicable people who defend him.

The moment that really made it sink in that I while I still consider myself to be a conservative, there is no way I could possibly call myself a Republican was the Access Hollywood video, and how few Rs were willing to condemn Trump's words and conduct. That failure reflected on them and their lack of dignity. I could not in good conscience identify with such cowards.

I have thought about it. I had pollsters call, and I identify as conservative, but as independent. I refuse to answer when they try to push it down to a binary choice. In November, I voted for some libertarians for some local offices, and there were some local races in which I did not vote, because I did not see an acceptable option. In TX, you don't formally register as one party, they just ask which primary ballot you want. I will likely still ask for the R ballot, mainly because for statewide races, the Republican primary is effectively the election.

Now the list of Rs I'll give money to is pretty short and is limited to people who opposed Trump from beginning to end. Like Ben Sasse and Mike Lee.