I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I wasn't asking about Democrats as a whole, but supposed "moderate" dems, whom you had just attacked.

I did not "attack" them. I probably am one. What I said was,

The more fundamental problem, of which this is a reminder, is that the policies backed by moderate Democrats have not done much for ordinary people over the last decade. The economy is doing OK, but the gains are being captured by the richest. If Democrats had a better response to that, Cantor's offer would seem like less of an issue.

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I'm not a moderate Dem, but I know many and think they're key to winning the next round of elections. But today's moderate dem would have been a McGovernite in '72.

I think the centrist wing of the party is trying hard - very hard - to come up with productive solutions, both from a policy perspective and from a political campaign perspective. I am frankly very disappointed in my own progressive wing of the party, particularly the white men in it but also some like Liz Warren, who seem to be casting stones at others without any serious proposals of their own.* They are just whiny little bro flakes.

If you don't have proposals, can I suggest beginning by entertaining some of the proposals others have?


* There is one very solid proposal that has come from the left, which is to push Medicare for all as a healthcare approach. The problem right now is no one has fleshed this out much yet, and someone needs to do the heavy lifting to develop it as a legislative idea in committee.

I am happy to entertain any proposal. Without minimizing the importance of healthcare or the environment or other things, I'm really talking about the economy, and the distribution of the gains from whatever growth we enjoy. How to create good jobs with good wages. This is a big problem, and it's not just the US.