Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

If in her heart of hearts, a young woman wishes to be an artist, but is instead compelled to work in a boring business, would her lifelong retention of a feeling that she is at heart an artist be a "privilege"?

Strange definition you offer... You are saying the withholding of inner sincere views is a "privilege." I'm an agnostic leaning atheist. I've felt that way my entire life. I am compelled, at great annoyance, to bite my lip around the majority of people for whom such a view is controversial. Is this a privilege?



I am rather hedonist by nature. As I suspect are a lot of people. We'd like to indulge in all sorts of behaviors, but cannot do so (at least in our regular daily lives).

Magic mushrooms are delightful. Truly exceptional experience-enabling substances. Would you consider it "immature" to eat those past a certain age? (And what would that age be?) Skiing a mogul course in one's mid-forties is not wise in terms of joint health. If you do that, and you hurt your knees, should you be tsk-tsk'ed for being immature? Is it immature to listen to speed metal or gangsta rap at 55?

"Immature" is an artificial construct. It's got no objective meaning, and serves solely to allow those who wish to judge a device with which to do so. (If you look into conversion therapy, its replete with the notion homosexuality is just an "immature phase.")





Men are only constrained by social opprobrium, and women are constrained by both that and actual violence from men? Hence, male privilege exists, but an equivalent female variant does not?

No idea exactly what you two are blathering about, but I think I'm agreeing with Adder that not being "brought to heel" is a privilege. If I didn't have money, I'd probably have to get married -- it's very expensive to live as a single person. If I didn't have access to birth control/abortion etc., I'd probably have a kid. So living my life the way I want to (single, childfree) is achievable because I have money. Since men tend to have the easier path to accumulation of wealth, then there's some male privilege involved there in them being able to live the life they want.

Sebby, have you seen the "I will argue about anyone about anything" meme? I saw it over the weekend and thought of you. I would post it here, but I forget how and also I would probably mess up the margins.