Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

Yeah, I don't think that's even remotely true. In fact, I think those who expect little from the state are especially likely to leverage themselves for McMansions and fancy vehicles while decrying the real moochers who get food stamps.

But I can introduce you to some car-free vegans who make their own clothes if you'd like to see saving and conserving.

You're describing a form of entitled spendthrift who expects quite a lot from the state. I'm talking about an animal entirely different from the Keep Up with the Joneses crowd.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You're describing a form of entitled spendthrift who expects quite a lot from the state. I'm talking about an animal entirely different from the Keep Up with the Joneses crowd.

I think the name for the animal you are talking about is "unicorn."

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I think the name for the animal you are talking about is "unicorn."

I love unicorns. Are they sparkly ones?

They aren't the ice-cream pooping unicorns, are they?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

One of our first babysitters ran with a freegan crowd.

I just made the mistake of reading a bunch of comments from Trumpsters and Berners posting on the FB page of one of our members.

It is clear that our educational system grossly failed white middle aged men. We seem to have a "lost generation" of almost totally useless twats. What kind of reforms are needed to fix this situation? Is immigration the only answer? Is it possible that white men are simply genetically deficient and there is nothing that can be done here?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

The definition of family time with trumpsters: having a relative who admits to never having heard of lifetime caps then lecture me on how insurance works (with a 7th grader's level of understanding).

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Scott Turow was right.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

This is really well written.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

If anything about the election of the last two Presidents tells me anything, it's that there is an extreme movement in the opposite direction of whoever just won office (even after we've voted for two terms of the polar opposite).

Bush sucked all the ass and because he was so terrible, we were able to elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama won by huge margins, but the next time around, the country swung all the way off the map to vote for an intellectually challenged moron who coats himself in gold.

Anyone going to prove to me that Bernie isn't going to win in 2020?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...e-sanders-2020

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

If anything about the election of the last two Presidents tells me anything, it's that there is an extreme movement in the opposite direction of whoever just won office (even after we've voted for two terms of the polar opposite).

Bush sucked all the ass and because he was so terrible, we were able to elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama won by huge margins, but the next time around, the country swung all the way off the map to vote for an intellectually challenged moron who coats himself in gold.

Anyone going to prove to me that Bernie isn't going to win in 2020?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...e-sanders-2020

TM

Talking up Sanders now seems like talking up Dean in 2005. In 2006, there's a reaction to an unpopular President and Democrats take back the House. The 2008 nomination goes not to Dean, who is now old news, but to a new Senator who had been a state legislator in 2004, not on anyone's radar. Sanders is indeed the most prominent Democratic candidate right now, but lots will happen before November 2020.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

If anything about the election of the last two Presidents tells me anything, it's that there is an extreme movement in the opposite direction of whoever just won office (even after we've voted for two terms of the polar opposite).

Bush sucked all the ass and because he was so terrible, we were able to elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama won by huge margins, but the next time around, the country swung all the way off the map to vote for an intellectually challenged moron who coats himself in gold.

Anyone going to prove to me that Bernie isn't going to win in 2020?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...e-sanders-2020

TM

"Prove"? Why would anyone try.

I think his recent retrenchment on healthcare is a sign he's thinking hard about it. He's basically adopted Hillary's approach as the right "short term" solution and backed away from single payer rhetoric. I think he finally looked hard at health care and figured out if he pushed single payer as a serious candidate, he'd have to answer all the questions on it no one ever bothers to try to address.

Expect to see him furiously reaching out to minority leaders soon.

It's always been hard for even a popular president to win a "third term" and be followed by someone of his own party. But it seems to be getting harder.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

So with an international crisis going on over North Korea's ICBM, at a point when a President gathers a team of his best minds and most skilled experts, Trump was tweeting about the possibility of independent military action from Japan, a country without a military, and South Korea, a country that has faced the specter of missile attacks for decades and won't make a move against the North without US backing.

Just how stupid are these people?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

So with an international crisis going on over North Korea's ICBM, at a point when a President gathers a team of his best minds and most skilled experts, Trump was tweeting about the possibility of independent military action from Japan, a country without a military, and South Korea, a country that has faced the specter of missile attacks for decades and won't make a move against the North without US backing.

Just how stupid are these people?

Pretty stupid. OTOH, there seems to be a national consensus not to admit that it's futile to hope that we can stop another country from developing technology that we developed 75 years ago, or that we have few good options.

eta: But the people working for him may not be quite as stupid.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Pretty stupid. OTOH, there seems to be a national consensus not to admit that it's futile to hope that we can stop another country from developing technology that we developed 75 years ago, or that we have few good options.

But but but... Trump said that we were done with "strategic patience" and that he'd stop North Korea ....

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

But but but... Trump said that we were done with "strategic patience" and that he'd stop North Korea ....

Nothing has changed.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Talking up Sanders now seems like talking up Dean in 2005. In 2006, there's a reaction to an unpopular President and Democrats take back the House. The 2008 nomination goes not to Dean, who is now old news, but to a new Senator who had been a state legislator in 2004, not on anyone's radar. Sanders is indeed the most prominent Democratic candidate right now, but lots will happen before November 2020.

Yes. Lots can happen. That's deep.

I think Sanders is very different than Obama. Obama's rise was because he was so charismatic and different. While Bernie may not have the charisma, he is certainly different. And he's got a lot of fanatics who are going to push very hard for him.

I think it's Biden's party until someone proves it isn't. I love Schiff, but he may be a little too stiff to move the needle. Although, after 4 years of fucking Trump, that may be exactly what everyone is looking for.

TM