Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

OMG, now you're going Charles Murray on us.

I grew up in the bubble that is rural America. A "bubble" occurs when one is not being open to ideas or to experiences that are unfamiliar. Bubbles are places where there is xenophobia and intolerance for others. The general sense that food might be better someplace other than Applebees or that it's worth actually reviewing a few facts instead of spouting Foxified platitudes is not living in a bubble.

The fact that I make fun of half-wit relatives who have never managed to see the Ocean while living five hours from it is not a bubble.

You do realize Murray is a buffoon? He's the Jeff Lord of the Harvard Faculty, who only has a job their because they needed a token conservative no matter how dumb?

And here I am sitting in my bubble missing out on what could be HUGE breaks in non-bubble stories.

TM

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

OMG, now you're going Charles Murray on us.

I grew up in the bubble that is rural America. A "bubble" occurs when one is not being open to ideas or to experiences that are unfamiliar. Bubbles are places where there is xenophobia and intolerance for others. The general sense that food might be better someplace other than Applebees or that it's worth actually reviewing a few facts instead of spouting Foxified platitudes is not living in a bubble.

The fact that I make fun of half-wit relatives who have never managed to see the Ocean while living five hours from it is not a bubble.

You do realize Murray is a buffoon? He's the Jeff Lord of the Harvard Faculty, who only has a job their because they needed a token conservative no matter how dumb?

You're losing. Call it a bubble, call it delusion, whatever. You are losing and whining, and when someone tells you it might be wise to find a different approach, you recoil and flip out.

If you're all so fucking smart, why can't you manipulate rubes? You grew up among them, apparently. These aren't difficult targets to bullshit.

The game is PT Barnum. You may not like it, but you don't get to change the rules until you win at it. Unfortunately, to get over that threshold, you need to play it.

Maybe in 2018... Maybe not.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

And here I am sitting in my bubble missing out on what could be HUGE breaks in non-bubble stories.

TM

Cernovich is the best proof his own racial superiority theories are bunk.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You are an imbecile. You think you're informing me that there are idiots out there who will believe ridiculous shit. If you think you're passing along news, you are in a bubble of your own creation. Everyone knows this shit.

Not only that, but this constant refrain that people who live in cities, who are well informed, and who share space with tons of different types of people with all sorts of experiences and opinions (from far right to far left) are the ones who live in a bubble (as opposed to the undereducated, misinformed, small town or rural, small-minded assholes whose only debate with the strictly white people they've known their whole lives is whether Trump is a great President or the greatest President) is beyond fucking stupid.

You can keep telling everyone they don't get it, but at some point you have to realize that the minute you turn your back, everyone is laughing at you.

TM

I'm not informing you of shit. I'm reminding you. You're such a dense fuck, it needs to be repeated to you endlessly that your head is up your ass.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You're losing. Call it a bubble, call it delusion, whatever. You are losing and whining, and when someone tells you it might be wise to find a different approach, you recoil and flip out.

If you're all so fucking smart, why can't you manipulate rubes? You grew up among them, apparently. These aren't difficult targets to bullshit.

The game is PT Barnum. You may not like it, but you don't get to change the rules until you win at it. Unfortunately, to get over that threshold, you need to play it.

Maybe in 2018... Maybe not.

Nah, suggesting you're being a moron isn't flipping out. You're being a moron.

The broader cultural battle will be won and is being won among the young. Every one of my old moronic relatives has kids who have emerged with far more sense than you could ever recognize. But, man, it is so sad the ills I see in that part of the world that could probably be cured with a bit of immigration.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

How odd. The article says that 76% of the county voted for Trump, but every single voter quoted in the story is a Trump supporter. It's almost as if the reporter went looking for them.

Read Taibbi's Insane Clown President. It's as good as Campaign 72. It explains the bubble elements and silo effects that led to Trump quite well. Ohio gets a good bit of discussion.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'm not informing you of shit. I'm reminding you. You're such a dense fuck, it needs to be repeated to you endlessly that your head is up your ass.

You're reminding me that people are stupid? Your whole existence is a constant fucking reminder. So, thanks?

TM

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Nah, suggesting you're being a moron isn't flipping out. You're being a moron.

The broader cultural battle will be won and is being won among the young. Every one of my old moronic relatives has kids who have emerged with far more sense than you could ever recognize. But, man, it is so sad the ills I see in that part of the world that could probably be cured with a bit of immigration.

I agree that progress still wins out. That's why I don't worry much about Trump.

But TM's all in a lather about the politics, so I offered, for the 70th time, the same point: Half of the Country Does Not Care About Russia.

Scream all you like about it -- the tribes have already decided their own private "facts." The only way to beat Trump is at the ballot box.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You're reminding me that people are stupid? Your whole existence is a constant fucking reminder. So, thanks?

TM

You're such a douche nozzle sometimes. How do I even?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Read Taibbi's Insane Clown President. It's as good as Campaign 72. It explains the bubble elements and silo effects that led to Trump quite well. Ohio gets a good bit of discussion.

I'm still reading the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, and thinking about your point yesterday that all's fair in politics. Hey, it worked for the Romans, amiright?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

But TM's all in a lather about the politics

You can't really be dumb enough to believe that me baiting you to tell me Trump Jr.'s emails were a big nothing burger was me "in a lather," could you? Don't answer. We know.

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

so I offered, for the 70th time, the same point: Half of the Country Does Not Care About Russia.

Once again, you are not providing a service. We all know the country and the electorate is filled with idiots, at least 35% of which will support Trump no matter what comes out.

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You're such a douche nozzle sometimes. How do I even?

Ohmigod! I bet you just can't!

Punk ass bitch.

TM

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm still reading the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, and thinking about your point yesterday that all's fair in politics. Hey, it worked for the Romans, amiright?

Neoliberal economics has left us with a system where the almost only rule is power.

Nobody likes a playa hater.

My equating HRC's emails with Stupid Watergate (Hat tip, Oliver) was intended to point out why I cared about neither. Was HRC guilty if something? The answer is, Who cares? She was the subject of a witch hunt, so if she destroyed a paper trail, I give her a pass. I believe you have s right to thwart an unjust political investigation. Similarly, was Trump's campaign guilty of colluding with Russians to help him to win? Seems pretty clear something was going on in that regard. And we should know about it. And perhaps technical crimes may be found. But politics in this modern, naked money-and-power-are-the-only-rules world is such that one must ask: What Campaign wouldn't take a call from Russians (or anyone else) offering "the goods" on an opponent?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You can't really be dumb enough to believe that me baiting you to tell me Trump Jr.'s emails were a big nothing burger was me "in a lather," could you? Don't answer. We know.

Once again, you are not providing a service. We all know the country and the electorate is filled with idiots, at least 35% of which will support Trump no matter what comes out.

Ohmigod! I bet you just can't!

Punk ass bitch.

TM

Your general demeanor on the election is lathered enough to flood Manhattan with soap bubbles.

Punk ass bitch? 2006 is calling. Short some home builder sticks.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm still reading the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, and thinking about your point yesterday that all's fair in politics. Hey, it worked for the Romans, amiright?

Speaking of which, I finally tried to read Gravity's Rainbow. I agree with the members of the Pulitzer Prize Advisory Board (which chose not to award the Prize in Literature in 1974 rather than give it to Gravity's Rainbow) who called it "unreadable" and "turgid."

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Your general demeanor on the election is lathered enough to flood Manhattan with soap bubbles.

Punk ass bitch? 2006 is calling. Short some home builder sticks.

Ugh. I just can't even with you.

TM