Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

Dems cannot win by chasing those blue-collar, white working class votes. They're gone, not least because a Dems can't beat the racism the GOP is willing to throw down.

Sure they can. Kennedy had those votes. Bill Clinton had those votes.

Dems cannot win by chasing votes of people like us (we're a statistical rounding error, mostly in already blue states) and focusing on narrow issues like the Dreamers.

As you said, Dems need to change the conversation from "We're the smart small govt folks" (which reads as, "we're limousine liberals" to low information [read most] voters, right and left) to "We're the big govt party, because we're tackling big issues that require big govt."

ETA: As TM noted, Obama also had those votes (though I doubt he had the truly bigoted white "they tuk ur jobs" votes Trump brought out of the weeds).