We are all Slave now.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'm really very sick of this bullshit. Those two candidates are not the same. Jeb would have pushed a lot of the same policy that is currently being passed by an all-Republican Congress based on pleasing the rich with massive tax cuts, reduction of government, gutting of regulation, and laws aimed at depriving gays and people of color as many rights as possible. Hillary would not.

You keep stating that things are bad and would have remained bad for people in this country like it is a product of our political system. You need to stop. Things are bad because of runaway capitalism. You are right that globalization and automation is taking a real toll. But the fact that you constantly argue that people are hurting because the two party system is so invested in maintaining the trend of reducing workforce is absolutely insanity. The government reacts to our economic realities. It doesn't set them. So if one side is desperately trying to help the country adjust and progress to help mitigate those realities and the other is trying desperately to pretend they don't exist by shutting us off from the world, protecting jobs in dying industries while failing to invest in the ones that will carry us forward, and using racism, homophobia, and xenophobia to accomplish it, you need to acknowledge that difference.


TM

Sebby, Thurgreed here is moving into an argument the hypothetical R candidate BT (before trump) was not the same thing as Hil. I don't take that step. i actually got people who said the two parties don't really get anywhere different. Of course there are different minor steps in one direction or the other. Jeb v. Hil would have been a much different question for me, and I would have understood people going third party.

For that matter people of our age learned something in 2000. That electoral college thing matters. The only person still posting here whose vote actually matters is B&B. NY, Cali, Texas, Mi and Pa., we always go blue (except Texas which is always red). Every vote in your life, and mine, was meaningless. but for once it did, and you and i knew it.

And it wasn't Jeb v. Hil.