We are all Slave now.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Put another way, are you suggesting that an unborn fetus is a "person?" That would have a lot of impiications. Lawsuits from the father to enjoin the mother from having a glass of wine? Is the fetus entitled to legal counsel? And, then, to your point about state control - can we imprison pregnant women to make them go to term? Mandate what they eat and drinik? Matrix-like fetus farms?

I, in some ways, support so-called states rights, but not when the claimed state's right is fundamentally abhorrent to a basic human right, to control my own body, to choose whether to have a child. Anyone who denies this choice to someone is a slaver.

And, since I'm on a roll, assuming that forced baby-making is not prohibited for the reasons in Roe, why isn't it a violation of the 4th, 6th, 13th or 14th Amendment? You can argue that the government can abrogate all those rights with a rational basis, but all the people and arguments on the forced-birth side are religious, and - by definition - irrational.