We are all Slave now.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I addressed your points. The impasse came when you adopted Klein's argument: "There's no good reason to engage in analysis of cultures that may provide people with a basis to avoid doing more for them."

The hypothetical you offered was, as I explained, inapplicable.

I'm not revisiting this subject again. I'm exhausted with it. It's a third rail conversation the best result of which is, "we agree to disagree."

I have yet to hear you say why, in the real world, you would ever want to be able to say that an oppressed group is x% responsible for its circumstances (were that even possible to "assess," which it is not, with "science" or otherwise -- which is the point of my Albania hypothetical, which you ducked). Why? You've talked about tort cases, but there are no tort cases for systemic, societal discrimination -- the design and operation of the courts is part of the problem, not the solution. So what's the point?

If you're exhausted with trying to explain the pointless and inane, that's fair.