We are all Slave now.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

It's odd that the discourse you are so worried about here is that of Murray and Harris, two affluent and successful guys with large audiences, guys with no problem getting their views heard and making a living from it. Literally no one is censoring them. Klein engages with Harris and patiently gives him a platform and publishes their conversation and you whine about censorship.

It reminds of the way Trump gets the NYT and CNN and the rest to cover his every utterance, and then complains about fake news.

I detest efforts to stop any form of speech or inquiry.

Klein is of a crowd who think they’ve the intellectual capacity and right to decide the questions society might ask.

Murray’s scholarship fails because he admits his ultimate point is that people should be taken individually, without consideration to race, sex, ethnicity (yes, that is his point). Then he goes on to run data on why people can be lumped together and assessed. The contradiction is too great. But that doesn’t mean we should crucify Harris for discussing the issue of whether there are politically correct taboos out there. Someone else may be able to take the information underpinning Murray’s flawed conclusions and reach accurate conclusions with it.

I would do this with any topic in which I see people trying to avoid inquiry. For instance, I believe Snowden is heroic. I think release of all possible info on domestic spying, and all inquiries regarding it, are valid. I want to see more, regardless of the alleged risks to national security. This is a position very much loathed by affluent men like Harris and Murray.

Free speech and inquiry are absolute. Call Harris a moron all you like. I’m fine with that. Try to define the rules of discourse to put Harris’s inquiry into the sphere of deviancy and I’ll call you out for it. You see the difference there. I know you do.