We are all Slave now.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

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Just so awful.

Every time we hear what a great character this dude has, let's just respond "Ask Renate"

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

By the way, if this Supreme court thing doesn't work out, look like Kavanaugh could go into biotech. This ability to restore lost virginity could be a gold mine.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

By the way, if this Supreme court thing doesn't work out, look like Kavanaugh could go into biotech. This ability to restore lost virginity could be a gold mine.

I keep waiting for someone to testify to the status of his hymen in 1983

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I keep waiting for someone to testify to the status of his hymen in 1983

I believe that issue is in play now.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I keep waiting for someone to testify to the status of his hymen in 1983

This from Slate points out that his alleged chastity is Not Relevant.

I knew he was a lace-curtain prick. I may have been a shitty dude in 1983, but I never groped the Punk Rock Girl when she was blotto, no matter how blotto I was.

And a shanty Irish grown up wouldn’t pretend that the “alumni association” crack was anything other than, at best, a mean joke. “Went to a single school function” and “admired her then and now,” my ass.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

This from Slate points out that his alleged chastity is Not Relevant.

I knew he was a lace-curtain prick. I may have been a shitty dude in 1983, but I never groped the Punk Rock Girl when she was blotto, no matter how blotto I was.

And a shanty Irish grown up wouldn’t pretend that the “alumni association” crack was anything other than, at best, a mean joke. “Went to a single school function” and “admired her then and now,” my ass.

Beyond outing a high school sex partner (or not) being loathsome, it’s dumb as all fuck, and selfish to society generally

Congrats, dumbass, by enforcing the double standard, not only you, but the rest of us, have fewer opportunities, as women are concerned about reputation. Women lose out, men lose out, our culture develops more hang-ups about a positive thing.

And while I’m at it, there’s a special ring in hell for women who call other women promiscuous. They should wind up married to Bretts.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I believe that issue is in play now.

I’ve actually spent a few weekends with folks from that school. The Dead Kennedys’ “Too Drunk to Fuck” could be a soundtrack.

Beer drinkers. JV.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Right now the person I feel worse for is Renate.

This accrues from sex bonding culture. Sexes naturally bond together, but when they do it drunk between junior high and grad school, it’s bad. Particularly when they’re whitebread sheltered kids.

This isn’t an exclusively guy thing. Have you ever spent time in an all female dorm or a house occupied by numerous girls? I’d sleep there with girlfriends and hear the most insane intimate details of my male friends’ anatomy. I knew which way half the frat house’s dicks leaned. Really graphic shit. Body odor, who couldn’t get it up... you name it.

My wife just told me an untrue and embarrassing story an ex passed around about me after we broke up. Thing circulated for years. (I probably deserved it because I ghosted her instead of breaking up honorably... but that’s beyond the point.)

Point being, “guys’ guys” are fucking weird. So are girly girls. If you enjoy hanging with your own sex exclusively more than hanging with both, I don’t want to drink with you.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

This from Slate points out that his alleged chastity is Not Relevant.

I knew he was a lace-curtain prick. I may have been a shitty dude in 1983, but I never groped the Punk Rock Girl when she was blotto, no matter how blotto I was.

And a shanty Irish grown up wouldn’t pretend that the “alumni association” crack was anything other than, at best, a mean joke. “Went to a single school function” and “admired her then and now,” my ass.

My conclusion from all of this is that there are two things that are indisputable:

(i) he was a drunken asshole during high school and college; that's not a crime, and there were even a couple drunken assholes I knew back then I thought were amusing, but most of them were just drunken assholes.

(ii) he's a liar today. He lies about small things, ranging from what the drinking age was when he was 17 (relevance?), to how much he drank back then, to what his sexual relationships were.

Number (ii) means that if this is just he-said, she-said, he loses. Number (i) isn't really relevant - while it may be more likely a drunken asshole will assault someone, there are plenty of drunken assholes who don't. But (i) does mean I will not feel guilty about any schadenfreude I may express about the situation, so there is that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

This accrues from sex bonding culture. Sexes naturally bond together, but when they do it drunk between junior high and grad school, it’s bad. Particularly when they’re whitebread sheltered kids.

This isn’t an exclusively guy thing. Have you ever spent time in an all female dorm or a house occupied by numerous girls? I’d sleep there with girlfriends and hear the most insane intimate details of my male friends’ anatomy. I knew which way half the frat house’s dicks leaned. Really graphic shit. Body odor, who couldn’t get it up... you name it.

My wife just told me an untrue and embarrassing story an ex passed around about me after we broke up. Thing circulated for years. (I probably deserved it because I ghosted her instead of breaking up honorably... but that’s beyond the point.)

Point being, “guys’ guys” are fucking weird. So are girly girls. If you enjoy hanging with your own sex exclusively more than hanging with both, I don’t want to drink with you.

That 8 football players from Georgetown Prep all claimed to have had sex with her is one thing. That she might have heard it at the time, and been in a situation where her perhaps healthy activities were being used in an attempt to make her feel lesser is another thing.

But 30 years later to be the subject of national news, and the example of how shitty rich boys can be to someone who thought she was their friend, is pretty fucked up. Icing: a few weeks ago she signed a paper saying Kav was a good guy.

i wonder if enrollment will be down at G-Town Prep next year.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

My conclusion from all of this is that there are two things that are indisputable:

(i) he was a drunken asshole during high school and college; that's not a crime, and there were even a couple drunken assholes I knew back then I thought were amusing, but most of them were just drunken assholes.

So you feel Senator Blutarsky shouldn't have been seated?

(ii) he's a liar today. He lies about small things, ranging from what the drinking age was when he was 17 (relevance?), to how much he drank back then, to what his sexual relationships were.

I went back and read what my state's Bar Character and Fitness looked at- would an allegation like this bar me from being a lawyer? The answer was it isn't clear- BUT over and over the materials emphasized being truthful now is taken as way more important than what shit you might have done then. Oh, and "ties" go to you don't get the ticket. You've a burden to prove you'll be okay.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

So you feel Senator Blutarsky shouldn't have been seated?

I supported Ted Kennedy for President in 1980, so back when he was in high school I was supporting a drunken asshole for President. (Yes, this is one of the things I now regret).

I went back and read what my state's Bar Character and Fitness looked at- would an allegation like this bar me from being a lawyer? The answer was it isn't clear- BUT over and over the materials emphasized being truthful now is taken as way more important than what shit you might have done then. Oh, and "ties" go to you don't get the ticket. You've a burden to prove you'll be okay.

Lying today is the thing. He should know this.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I supported Ted Kennedy for President in 1980, so back when he was in high school I was supporting a drunken asshole for President. (Yes, this is one of the things I now regret).

Lying today is the thing. He should know this.

Um, the past looks like it’s going to be front and center: https://www.democraticunderground.org/100211183107

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

That 8 football players from Georgetown Prep all claimed to have had sex with her is one thing. That she might have heard it at the time, and been in a situation where her perhaps healthy activities were being used in an attempt to make her feel lesser is another thing.

But 30 years later to be the subject of national news, and the example of how shitty rich boys can be to someone who thought she was their friend, is pretty fucked up. Icing: a few weeks ago she signed a paper saying Kav was a good guy.

i wonder if enrollment will be down at G-Town Prep next year.

The media didn’t need to name her. It could’ve run that without doing so.

Tom Wolfe left too early. This is the mother of all Big Books.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Um, the past looks like it’s going to be front and center: https://www.democraticunderground.org/100211183107

This is just horrible. And those assholes in the Senate don't give a flying fuck.