We are all Slave now.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Looking at our duck boat crowds out there today, I have to say, I kind of miss the day when if your team won the World Series, you'd have a riot, turn over a few cars, cause some real mayhem. It's all so civilized today.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

In related news, the 14th Amendment can be overturned by executive order. I daydreamed thru a lot of con law (except regarding the First Amendment, which I find interesting), but isn't this unpossible?

The precedent was when Obama was going to take our guns. As ever, we have him to blame.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

even your strawman has to eat.

This was a little nugget of joy. Nicely done.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Looking at our duck boat crowds out there today, I have to say, I kind of miss the day when if your team won the World Series, you'd have a riot, turn over a few cars, cause some real mayhem. It's all so civilized today.

Four times in fifteen years. The city is jaded. Kids these days don't know what it was like, watching baseball every summer and then losing to New York in the fall. Or the Cardinals in a good year.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Four times in fifteen years. The city is jaded. Kids these days don't know what it was like, watching baseball every summer and then losing to New York in the fall. Or the Cardinals in a good year.

Maybe if we had more baseball riots they wouldn't have to resort to anti-social stuff like Trump rallies.

And yes, four times in fifteen years, but after almost a century of chokes. SF has done almost as well without the long period of suffering. Talk about jaded.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Maybe if we had more baseball riots they wouldn't have to resort to anti-social stuff like Trump rallies.

And yes, four times in fifteen years, but after almost a century of chokes. SF has done almost as well without the long period of suffering. Talk about jaded.

Before 2010, the Giants had not won the World Series since 1954, and that was in New York.

San Franciscans are naturally jaded, though.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

That might be the most Keystone Kops-esque disinformation campaign I've ever seen.

But it does raise two issues:

1. Is it a crime to pay someone to lie about a political figure? It's conspiring to defame, but that's a civil claim. And it seems a stretch to argue it's attempted obstruction of justice or some interference with an investigation on the theory he and Burkman intended to damage Mueller in some manner that ended his investigation of Trump. I know there's going to be some crime here, but what would it be?

2. Five or six million people who only read the headlines of stories now believe Mueller was engaged in some form of sexual misconduct.

In related news, the 14th Amendment can be overturned by executive order. I daydreamed thru a lot of con law (except regarding the First Amendment, which I find interesting), but isn't this unpossible?

link

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Before 2010, the Giants had not won the World Series since 1954, and that was in New York.

San Franciscans are naturally jaded, though.

The As had a bunch in that time frame, though.

It is kind of amazing that Willie Mays only got one World Series ring.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-Amer.../dp/0735224897

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-Amer.../dp/0735224897

Well that looks terrible.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

Well that looks terrible.

How couldn’t it be? What with all those right wing psychos like Colonel West, Steven Pinker, Jonathon Sacks, Mike Bloomberg, and Neil deGrasse Tyson lauding it.

And it being written by arch-conservatives.

What was I thinking recommending it? Thank god I have your unique, rigorous intellect on these issues to guide me.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

How couldn’t it be? What with all those right wing psychos like Colonel West, Steven Pinker, Jonathon Sacks, Mike Bloomberg, and Neil deGrasse Tyson lauding it.

And it being written by arch-conservatives.

What was I thinking recommending it? Thank god I have your unique, rigorous intellect on these issues to guide me.

I clicked through and it looks like a non-solution to a non-problem. Why do you think it looks like a valuable use of dead trees?

One of the Wee Slothrops is about to go to college. From what I can tell so far, that book has zero relevance to what he is going to experience.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

How couldn’t it be? What with all those right wing psychos like Colonel West, Steven Pinker, Jonathon Sacks, Mike Bloomberg, and Neil deGrasse Tyson lauding it.

And it being written by arch-conservatives.

What was I thinking recommending it? Thank god I have your unique, rigorous intellect on these issues to guide me.

"The problem with kids today" is simply not an interesting topic.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I clicked through and it looks like a non-solution to a non-problem. Why do you think it looks like a valuable use of dead trees?

One of the Wee Slothrops is about to go to college. From what I can tell so far, that book has zero relevance to what he is going to experience.

It goes far beyond college. It explains the cognitive failures and flawed reasoning causing polarization. It blames a lot of the moronic idiocy on the left on universities, true, but it applies the same criticism to the right and analyzes the silos that create that side’s groupthink.

And unsurprisingly, it’s lizard brain stuff that applies pretty solidly to both sides.

They use a compelling three part analysis (three “untruths”) both sides of our polarized debates have in common.

At the end, you realize both sides are kind of just playing an ends-justify-the-means game. But how the authors get you there is quite insightful.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

"The problem with kids today" is simply not an interesting topic.

It focuses primarily on adults. The silly college kids and alt-right kids are shown to be symptoms, or perhaps metastases, of very demented thinking by adults.