Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

CK deserved some time in exile. He got it.

I mean, not really, but nonetheless, people should have the opportunity to choose whether to see or work with him.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I think you're delusional.

TM

I don't know why you're so upset. We can just have Congress pass legislation or amend the constitution.

Oh, right.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You're insane. You think Texas (and every single Republican state) isn't going to immediately gerrymander the fuck out of themselves with computer programs and algorithms to make sure they never ever turn blue? These state decisions will be few and far between.

This country is being fucked in the ass dry. And Republicans are doing the fucking.

TM

Dems have generally been pushing various fair voting mechanisms for the entire time I've been involved in politics, and we've spent many many millions of dollars working on approaches using computer programs to improve redistricting. Enough. We have to put it all into gerrymandering, as the Rs have.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

This country is being fucked in the ass dry. And Republicans are doing the fucking.

TM

On the bright side, they have just the tiniest little penises.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I think you're delusional.

TM

It’s funny. I just texted with a GOP operative who told me I was nuts for thinking this wouldn’t allow them to overturn PA’s ruling.

I seem to recall state supreme courts had final word on state constitutional issues? Am I wrong?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Dems have generally been pushing various fair voting mechanisms for the entire time I've been involved in politics, and we've spent many many millions of dollars working on approaches using computer programs to improve redistricting. Enough. We have to put it all into gerrymandering, as the Rs have.

Actually, this is the best approach. So it’s not the end of the Democracy. It’s just a splintering of the Republic into permanent red and blue enclaves.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Actually, this is the best approach. So it’s not the end of the Democracy. It’s just a splintering of the Republic into permanent red and blue enclaves.

That, of course, favors the Repubes since they have solid control over states with more seats than do Dems. I understand you like that.

Gerrymandering has a lot of adverse consequences - it makes seats noncompetitive, so incumbents more easily win; it shifts the real focus to primaries, so elections get controlled by a smaller more radical group; it concentrates money in fewer competitive districts. There just isn't a silver lining to gerrymandering.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You're insane. You think Texas (and every single Republican state) isn't going to immediately gerrymander the fuck out of themselves with computer programs and algorithms to make sure they never ever turn blue? These state decisions will be few and far between.

This country is being fucked in the ass dry. And Republicans are doing the fucking.

TM

Remember, you have to combine this with things like the gutting of the Civil Rights Act and elimination of a lot of funding restrictions. More of a gang rape.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You're insane. You think Texas (and every single Republican state) isn't going to immediately gerrymander the fuck out of themselves with computer programs and algorithms to make sure they never ever turn blue? These state decisions will be few and far between.

This country is being fucked in the ass dry. And Republicans are doing the fucking.

TM

If it helps, Illinois is gerrymandered the other way:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...ng-Deathmatch/

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

If it helps, Illinois is gerrymandered the other way:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...ng-Deathmatch/

screw that bipartisan commission - we need more Gerrymandering there now. That commission is unilateral disarmament.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

It’s funny. I just texted with a GOP operative who told me I was nuts for thinking this wouldn’t allow them to overturn PA’s ruling.

I seem to recall state supreme courts had final word on state constitutional issues? Am I wrong?

Jesus Christ. We are talking about different things.

I am not interested in PA. First, because the PA decision has already been made.

Second, here's what is going to happen. Every very red state is going to gerrymander the fuck out of every possible election. And they'll do it with the most sophisticated software, ensuring maximum Republican results, which will mean waaaay more lunatic Freedom Caucus types at every possible level of government.

Then, states like Texas (that are trending blue-ward) will do the same. With their newly gerrymandered state senates, they will change the laws. They will appoint more lunatic judges who will uphold those laws. If a state has a constitutional issue with any of it, Republicans will amend it out of existence or their appointed judges will strike the provision.

But if you think any state where Republicans can now gerrymander themselves into a permanent position of power is going to self-regulate itself to fairness after this decision, you are absolutely crazy.

You combine this decision with the destruction of the Voting Rights Act and Republican goals have been met beyond their wildest dreams. The fact that the Electoral College and the existence of the Senate already gives them outsized political power wasn't enough. Your head is going to fucking spin with the levels of political gerrymandering we're about to go through.

This decision is a fucking joke.

(Also, I don't care what your friends think.)

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Actually, this is the best approach. So it’s not the end of the Democracy. It’s just a splintering of the Republic into permanent red and blue enclaves.

Are you serious? Do you even hear yourself?

What the fuck?

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

If it helps, Illinois is gerrymandered the other way:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Ma...ng-Deathmatch/

No. That doesn't help. I would prefer if all states had open and fair fucking elections.

TM

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

No. That doesn't help. I would prefer if all states had open and fair fucking elections.

TM

We get legal weed in 6 months.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

We get legal weed in 6 months.

I guess there's that?

TM