Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm kinda thinking Trump is right when he says it's unconstitutional for California to require him (or anyone else) to release his tax returns to be on the ballot.

Help me out with what provision in the constitution is implicated?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Of course it is. Plus who cares? Have Ohio or Pa do it then let's talk.

It might actually be bad for Dems if it suppresses down ballot turnout.

That said, having given it maybe 30 seconds of thought, it does seem a bit like adding an extra qualification to be president.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Adder

That said, having given it maybe 30 seconds of thought, it does seem a bit like adding an extra qualification to be president.

You mean like requiring a fee or forcing candidates to obtain a certain number of signatures?

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Why? What's the argument?

The Constitution establishes the requirements to be President, and this precludes the states from establishing their own additional requirements. California can't say, you have to be fifty years old to be on the ballot.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The Constitution establishes the requirements to be President, and this precludes the states from establishing their own additional requirements. California can't say, you have to be fifty years old to be on the ballot.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ns-bill-243799

Jerry Brown agrees- plus there are Court decisions that a state cannot add to requirements for congress.

[soup sandwich]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I don't think anyone voted for Obama because Palin was on the ticket. Who thinks like that?

Me. McCain had my vote until he chose Palin. I think she is awful.

I voted for Hillary in the 2008 primary, and went with Obama in the general.

My presidential votes:
88 Bush
92 Clinton
96 Clinton
00 Gore (McCain would have had my vote if he had gotten the nomination)
04 Kerry (if no Iraq war I'd have voted Bush, not a Kerry fan)
08 Obama
12 Romney
16 Hillary
20 The dem nominee

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The Constitution establishes the requirements to be President, and this precludes the states from establishing their own additional requirements. California can't say, you have to be fifty years old to be on the ballot.

But the President is chosen by electors and the process for choosing the electors is generally left to the states. Electors have at times been chosen by state legislatures instead of by popular vote, and different states have set different qualifications for voting in Presidential elections.

Now, maybe there's an argument the 14th amendment changes some of that, is that where you are going?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

The Constitution establishes the requirements to be President, and this precludes the states from establishing their own additional requirements. California can't say, you have to be fifty years old to be on the ballot.

But they can charge you a higher fee than Illinois?

California isn't changing the actual text of the Constitution (as you have in your example). But it seems to me there are already different hurdles for different states in order to qualify.

TM

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Of course it is. Plus who cares? Have Ohio or Pa do it then let's talk.

I considered reading about CA's action there. Then that exact thought hit me and I surfed to some story about the best celebrity bikini bodies over 40.

Trump shouldn't challenge that law. He should let it stand. It gives him another saucy story about "crazy libs" with which to gin up votes.

Never underestimate the "I fear Trump, but I fear his craziest enemies more" vote. CA isn't doing anyone any favors there, except to the extent it emboldens a Blue Wall state to follow suit.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Listen to Howard more. Smh

Howard should be podcasted into segments so you can listen to the interviews, phony phone calls, and whack pack gags, and avoid all the dreck between cast members.

"Ass treaks" was funny for a few weeks, but other than that, Ronnie Brings Nothing.

And Bobo is the worst. Why does he allow that bore to take up so much time? Also, Jeff the Drunk sucks.

More Medicated Pete. I can never get enough Medicated Pete.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Listening to Howard is very 2008, no offense.

Dissent. On Sirius, my choices are:

BBC (30% Trump stories)
Bloomberg (40% Trump stories)
Trump News
Trump News
Trump Gossip
Trump Opinion (pro)
Trump Opinion (anti)
Trump Conspiracies
Trump News Flashback
Trump Market Impact Predictions
Trump, and,
Trump Kid News

Howard is the only place you can avoid it.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

It's good we have RT, a resident expert on feral hogs.

I've stayed quiet on the subject because I sort of sympathize with the dude. We've had about as many show up more or less in the front yard on more than one occasion. My brother and I counted 27 crossing the road in front of us a few weeks back. Most were pretty young.

Somehow, though, we've all managed to co-exist without the need for an arsenal.

The high tech traps someone set up doesn't seem to work.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

What I said above wasn't quite right. Biden does have a vision of how to bring people from the center into the fold. It's the centrist Democrat thing a la 20-30 years ago. The problem is, he doesn't seem to reckon with the way Republicans refused to work with the Obama Administration, let alone what has happened since.

He also has to do something about those liver spots on his dome. Ewww. I don't want to see that.

Wear a hat. Maybe nice fedora. He's old enough to pull it off. Or one of those summer wool hats hipsters like so much.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Somehow, though, we've all managed to co-exist without the need for an arsenal.

If someone needs a machine gun to protect them from roving packs of feral pigs, they live in the wrong place.

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

If someone needs a machine gun to protect them from roving packs of feral pigs, they live in the wrong place.

TM

At first I thought feral pigs was a euphemism for Republicans.