Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Do you really think you'll get away with suggesting that the only thing rendering O'Donnell's claim worthy of retraction is a lack of additional sources? O'Donnell isn't retracting because he's only got one source.

I don't know why you think I care. I'm reacting to what you said, not O'Donnell's report.

O'Donnell's report will be seen by Blue Wall voters as more proof that there's a dirty President being attacked by an even dirtier media. It pushes voters on the fence (and there are a lot) closer to concluding, "both sides are crooked." Once a person is in that mindset, the incumbent's natural advantage turns the vote in his favor.

This paragraph makes absolutely no sense. Sorry.

It's not a sense of cultural grievance with Blue Wall swing voters. That's your arrogance - your belief you know what people are thinking, which is only correct about 50% of the time - leading you to that pompous belief. That's also you confusing Trumpkins with Blue Wall moderates. Those are two very different camps.

You were explaining what these voters were thinking when you said it would help Trump. That's your arrogance - your belief you know what people are thinking, which is only correct about .5% of the time - leading you to that pompous belief.

A lot of Blue Wall voters are disgusted with both sides. I assume the Blue Wall is a lot like PA and NJ, where I spend most of my time. There are a lot of similarities between the regions. Moderates in these parts are sick of Trump. But they're just as sick of the Resistance. And they really hate the media (right and left). It's not grievance. They truly Do Not Like Either Side.

Even if that all of that is true, which I doubt, but whatever, the idea that a mistaken report that Trump is corrupt somehow helps him (because Both Sides!) is totally, completely stupid.

And they laugh at people like you who profess to know what they're thinking or why they vote as they do. You're really fucking clueless. Your argument against Biden proves it. And you clearly have some issue with maths. Your view - that Ds should run strident progressives - is a recipe for a giant Electoral College loss coupled with a giant Popular Vote win. If you're hoping to spur a constitutional convention where we throw out the Electoral College, this may be a clever long term plan. If you want to win this election, it's a terrible idea.

I'm not sure what you are talking about in this paragraph. It bears no resemblance to anything I have said. Knock yourself out.

ETA: Trump is an openly lying liar. There is a perverse honesty in that. The people in the media who shade things are not openly lying. They are trying to hide the ball, to convince you that what they are saying is credible. That’s more of a sneak then a liar. People really dislike sneaks. Your calculation is that sneaks can amass huge amounts of voters against a liar. I don’t think that’s likely. I think most people look at such a scenario and throw their hands up in disgust.

Trump certainly will get a lot of votes who see him on one side and liberal media on the other. But that's beside the point.