Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

This sounds intelligent, as does Malcolm Gladwell, but upon further inspection is helium.

Fine, but you sound like an idiot when you use the word "polarization" to describe the fact that people have different views. Consider what the "poles" in "polarization" are.

I think a lot of conservatives would get behind climate change initiatives. Maybe not the Green New Deal, but something. But when you mix those into a platform including the rest of what the Democrats are selling, they say, "yeah, fuck that."

You are out of your mind. Conservatives deny climate change now, in large part (I think) because progressives care so much about it. The former is empirically undeniable. As the problem has gotten worse, conservatives increasingly deny that it exists and oppose doing anything about it. The current Administration is rolling back air quality protections that industry doesn't want rolled back, just to say "f*ck you" to Obama. That is quintessentially conservative.

This is helium. Your helium. I get the idea behind it, but it results from you thinking too much and thinking you've a high minded explanation for things that you don't. You're right a bit here, as to some conservatives, but nowhere near as much as you think.

Nice talking to you.

Huh? I think most of the institutions that count, where people have power and money, trend conservative. When I'm around conservatives with coin, or power, as I'm sure you'd agree, they don't feel ostracized. They feel sort of embarrassed that a bunch of silly loons like the Squad and people who think similarly really believe they can make a difference. They laugh at people like you, people like me even, and they really laugh at the Trumpkins and the rank and file Democrats who think they'll see a revolution. Those are the real conservatives that matter. Conservatives without power are just whiners, like progressives who never have power.

I guess we are using the word "conservatives" in different ways. You're talking about Republicans. I'm talking about conservatives.

Still want to have a dumb argument about which party is to blame?

No, I was trying to describe polarization.