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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So name something current conservatives push that isn't in the kids in cages, wall to nowhere, etc. category.
Tax policy? The last tax bill was a clusterfuck to benefit the 1% and little more, even people in my tax bracket are discovering that many of them pay more under it if their income is mostly from salaries or they in a blue state or both.
Big Government/Small Government - conservatives are pushing big government in all kinds of spheres, including military and policy powers, incarceration policies, marijuana, abortion, immigration.
What? Give us a case where you think conservatives aren't just assholes.
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Actually, conservatives are split on incarceration. In shitty areas with low education, where "tough on crime" is a popular election slogan, both Ds and Rs are regressive. In more educated areas, you'll find Rs advocate against jails on both social and economic bases (the latter more so). You can easily sell and R on ankle bracelets and drug treatment in lieu of jail on the basis that it's cheaper.
On the military, Rs are also split. They'd prefer to spend less. Recall it was Rumsfeld, under Bush, who sought to cut the Pentagon budget. The problem there is, defense is a jobs program for many states (each part of a plane is built somewhere else, etc.). Ds and Rs with defense contractors in their districts fight like hell against any effort to pare the military.
I totally agree that conservatives are pushing for big govt. I think they're just a different version of progressives. Both sides want to spend more and have people live the way they want them to live. This is why I said progressives are excellent in terms of tolerance, but lousy in terms of passing new rules and laws and starting new agencies. They want people to be free to do as they want in their personal lives... but they want to manage business more aggressively. And that'd be fine if it were limited to big business. But it's not. When they pass new laws, like Dodd Frank for example, it doesn't just address the big banks. It nails the little ones as well.
Conservatives attempt, badly, to leave you on your own in matters regarding commerce. That's not an asshole policy. It's a form of freedom that progressives don't offer. Unfortunately, conservatives don't execute on that very well, because they allow crony capitalism to run amuck, which allows monopolies and big players to crush the little guys at every turn. But at least in theory, they're trying to leave people alone to make money as they like.
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