Objectively intelligent.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Gin originally was a medicine used to treat, among other things, the plague. So one could always try gin again.

Laugh all you want, pretty boy, but I’ve been plague-free for decades.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Sorry, I call BS. There is no cure for the virus. What they are doing in the hospitals is trying to alleviate the damage it does to you. You don't send someone infected that recently to be with someone that vulnerable. Or maybe someone else does, but....

You are completely and totally wrong. Self isolate. At home. They aren’t keeping anyone in hospitals if they can walk or breathe on their own.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I don't see a cocktail mentioned. What is in it?

chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Laugh all you want, pretty boy, but I’ve been plague-free for decades.

I knew discussion of first party property BI claims would lure you back here.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Laugh all you want, pretty boy, but I’ve been plague-free for decades.

Sebby says gin is only for summer.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine

Thank you. Take a lesson Ty, this is how is helpful. Remind us again of why they made you the moderator?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Sebby says gin is only for summer.

I evolved on that issue long ago.

And it's basically summer most of the year now with climate change anyway.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

So the new cocktail that stops the lung damage caused by this virus but not the lung damage done by other respiratory diseases? That doesn't seem likely. I'm all in favor of effective treatments, but I've got to say that the stories that I'm hearing about this cocktail don't fit with the stories I hear from my spouse when she returns from the teaching hospital where she cares for people who can't breathe for themselves. Obviously, I sure hope it works.

But if it treats the symptoms, it's not getting rid of the virus in the patient's body, and that means that exposing the patient to vulnerable people is crazy.

The virus absolutely kills people. It kills people by damaging their lungs and sometimes their heart.

I thought the virus killed by one of two means, which were both symptom related:

1. Causing severe viral or bacterial pneumonia;
2. Stressing the heart by impeding breathing and ability to get oxygen into blood

Hence my comment that the virus isn't the cause so much as the havoc the virus invites by making the lungs open to infection and stressing the heart of those with compromised cardiac profiles.

But I'm no doc. Just reading shit like everyone else. So if the virus actually gets into the heart and does damage, I'll believe your wife on that.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

You are completely and totally wrong. Self isolate. At home. They aren’t keeping anyone in hospitals if they can walk or breathe on their own.

We seem to be talking past each other. Everything you say after your first sentence is right. But if you have a person who has tested positive, you do NOT expose them to a 100-year-old.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I thought the virus killed by one of two means, which were both symptom related:

1. Causing severe viral or bacterial pneumonia;
2. Stressing the heart by impeding breathing and ability to get oxygen into blood

Hence my comment that the virus isn't the cause so much as the havoc the virus invites by making the lungs open to infection and stressing the heart of those with compromised cardiac profiles.

But I'm no doc. Just reading shit like everyone else. So if the virus actually gets into the heart and does damage, I'll believe your wife on that.

They don't even have a fucking clue what the symptoms are, still.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I get what you're saying, but I'd bet against the insureds. First, you would have to establish that your plane/hotel had coronavirus on it, and then what would your POR be? The day it took to clean the plane?

Agreed. I made the claim anyway, at suggestion of broker. But I'm claiming based on civil shutdown, not covid infestation. Fuck that.

You'd possibly open yourself to liability elsewhere by asserting you had covid on surfaces in the office. Anyone coming in could point to you as the cause of their later illness. Lawyers suing you would surely ask for insurance claim info regarding assertions that the business was contaminated in discovery.

But putting all of this aside, let's say BI claims were granted for this stuff. Is there any pool of insurers and reinsurers who could possibly cover all of these claims? To allow it would basically bankruptcy the insurance industry, wouldn't it?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Thank you. Take a lesson Ty, this is how is helpful. Remind us again of why they made you the moderator?

Facilitating this kind of helpful exchange. You're welcome.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

We seem to be talking past each other. Everything you say after your first sentence is right. But if you have a person who has tested positive, you do NOT expose them to a 100-year-old.

No, you are just plain wrong.

They. Are. Releasing. People. Who. Test. Positive.

Quarantine at home.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

They don't even have a fucking clue what the symptoms are, still.

Dry cough, fever (or maybe not), watery eyes, maybe trouble breathing (or not), maybe gastro issues, maybe a headache.

Tom Hanks sails through just fine, and some 48 year old ex-college athletes die. Fucking bizarre.

Idris Elba has no symptoms. Let's see how Rand Paul does.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

They don't even have a fucking clue what the symptoms are, still.

no sense of smell. for the first time in a while, I'm enjoying how smelly my shits are.