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Old 07-24-2020, 01:55 PM   #11
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Re: Bon Appetit

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Only because the big comics have decided to respond to cancel folks by making fun of them, or saying "Fuck off." This gives the little guys some cover.

It's hard for a scold to take on a pro like Chris Rock or Jerry Seinfeld. They can slay a literal, earnest mind in under 30 seconds. Or better yet, being masters of facial expression (a huge part of stand up), they can just roll their eyes at those people.

ETA: Also, the Joe Rogan Element, as I’d call those media consumers and producers, which is huge, is seeing through the looking glass on this stuff. They’re immunized to it because they don’t give a shit. They say whatever they like. And connected to them you have people like Harris and Maher, who can outthink any cancel culture proponent alive. The backlash to cancel culture is going to be spectacular. And companies like Spotify are happy to fund it to the tune of $120mil. (I wish they’d have bought Harris too.) The conflict is going to be fun to watch. And a really excellent teaching moment about free expression for Gen Z.
Nah. It's because writing comedy is entirely about understanding how people react to the words you use. Lazy comics take cheap shots at people more marginalized than them. They know what they are doing.

Meanwhile, good comics try to avoid punching down and are funnier for it. Louis CK had other issues, but he also did material on touchy topics because he was careful about how he approached them. A big part of Jim Jefferies's persona is walking the line but staying on the non-creep side.

Yeah, you can still make money being Nick Di Paolo or one of Rogan's mouth-breathing hanger ons, but that shit ain't funny.

ETA: What's especially annoying about these types of discussions is that literally everyone moderates what they say to a degree. No on is out there doing Scott Joplin routines. Heck, no one is out there doing Andrew Dice Clay or Kinison. The world changes. Which is an opportunity for the unscrupulous to pretend like they are refusing to change with it to make money of of dupes who think it's edgy. But even they have lines.

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