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		|  11-04-2020, 06:40 PM | #3661 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  It looks like most of the votes still out for Nevada and Arizona are from very blue areas, so sigh!!!!
 It looks like Biden is down about 280K in Pa with about 710K still to be counted. So they have to be 70% Biden?
 |  Don't know if this  is right, it was some guy with a blue star an hour ago on Twitter:
 
Where PA stands: 
- Trump's edge is down to about 300k. 
- About 900k mail ballots uncounted yet. 
- Biden still winning 78% of those. 
- If - again IF - that % holds, Biden would surpass Trump's advantage.
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		|  11-04-2020, 06:56 PM | #3662 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  Don't know if this  is right, it was some guy with a blue star an hour ago on Twitter:
 
Where PA stands: 
- Trump's edge is down to about 300k. 
- About 900k mail ballots uncounted yet. 
- Biden still winning 78% of those. 
- If - again IF - that % holds, Biden would surpass Trump's advantage. |  I was going from the overall % numbers- I don’t see anything that list % of mail in only?
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  I was going from the overall % numbers- I don’t see anything that list % of mail in only? |  Damn son, Ga may go Biden. Atlanta is only 85% in and Biden is only 45K behind.
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 Senate 2022- 12 D seats up 22 R. Flip it. 
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 Quadrafecta!!!!! 
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		|  11-04-2020, 09:01 PM | #3666 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  I was going from the overall % numbers- I don’t see anything that list % of mail in only? |  IDK. That guy is a political reporter for a Philadelphia paper, so I assume he knows something, but ????
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		|  11-04-2020, 09:02 PM | #3667 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  Quadrafecta!!!!! |  I remember when Penske did that once in 2006, but he did use a couple of socks, nttawwt.
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		|  11-04-2020, 09:24 PM | #3668 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  IDK. That guy is a political reporter for a Philadelphia paper, so I assume he knows something, but ???? |  Hmm, maybe he heard it at one of those fancy Philly cocktail parties?
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		|  11-04-2020, 11:24 PM | #3669 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  Senate 2022- 12 D seats up 22 R. Flip it. |  Why? We’re getting a once in a lifetime trifecta:
 
1. Low taxes; 
2. Social liberals in charge of exec branch; 
3. Extremes on left and right checked.
 
You get your cake and you get to eat it.  You want to enable the hard left to screw this up?
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		|  11-04-2020, 11:30 PM | #3670 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  IDK. That guy is a political reporter for a Philadelphia paper, so I assume he knows something, but ???? |  You don’t need to be a reporter to see PA can and probably will turn blue.  800k votes remaining out of Philly, 80% going to Biden. 
 
.8 x 800k = 640k votes
 
Current Trump lead = 180k 
 
Trump picks up 160k votes and taps out at 340k
 
Biden nearly doubles that in pick up on % of last 800k outstanding alone. 
 
Biden has PA.  Game, set, match.
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		|  11-04-2020, 11:41 PM | #3671 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  The way you pretend to care about nothing and then occasionally admit to actually having views and preferences is maddening. I think we all mostly understand that you are full of sh*t when you pretend not to have views, but still. |  I’m quite clear about what I care about :
 
1. Negative right based freedoms; 
2. Limited govt and taxation
 
The two party system usually forces a miserable bargain on me.  Here, due to an odd conflation of events, we’ve wound up with low taxes, gridlocked govt, and a socially liberal but moderate exec branch.  
 
The right wing is now in cultural and political Siberia.  The Progressives can’t get agenda thru Senate so are neutralized.  
 
Biden happily governs as a moderate.  When the Progressives attack him, he has McConnell play the villain.  
 
Market’s going to fly.  And it’s good for small business too.
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		|  11-04-2020, 11:41 PM | #3672 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  Why? We’re getting a once in a lifetime trifecta:
 1. Low taxes;
 2. Social liberals in charge of exec branch;
 3. Extremes on left and right checked.
 
 You get your cake and you get to eat it.  You want to enable the hard left to screw this up?
 |  Judges. So it will be 51/49. If the Dems can cause 1 R senator to move they can win, but if lizard boy won't let anything come up through  judiciary is there any way to unclog if the Ds can convince 1 R to be reasonable?
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		|  11-04-2020, 11:59 PM | #3673 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  Judges. So it will be 51/49. If the Dems can cause 1 R senator to move they can win, but if lizard boy won't let anything come up through  judiciary is there any way to unclog if the Ds can convince 1 R to be reasonable? |  That sausage can be made.  I see McConnell in a horse trading mode.  He’s lucky to be where he is and should realize the value of slow playing and placating the other side on the judge issue.  You won’t get what you want, or even what you need, but you’ll get enough incrementally that you’ll be sated for periods and the months will keep passing on the interim.
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		|  11-05-2020, 11:20 AM | #3674 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  That sausage can be made.  I see McConnell in a horse trading mode. |  I thought you lived through the Obama years.
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		|  11-05-2020, 02:02 PM | #3675 |  
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					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  Why? We’re getting a once in a lifetime trifecta:
 1. Low taxes;
 2. Social liberals in charge of exec branch;
 3. Extremes on left and right checked.
 
 You get your cake and you get to eat it.  You want to enable the hard left to screw this up?
 |  What hard left?
 
I'd like to get healthcare that covers everyone. I'd like to get fiscal support to people during a pandemic. I'd like to actually address the student debt crisis, and reduce it going forward. I'd like the minimum wage to reflect actual productivity. I'd like electoral reform so that the GOP can stop relying on voter suppression as it's main electoral strategy. I'd like to see massive investment in green energy and tech so that we can, finally, start to address both climate change and the lack of high quality blue collar jobs. Maybe even UBI.
 
We need a ton of change because the path we're on is not sustainable. All of that is way more valuable than the little bit more in taxes I might have to pay.
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