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Old 05-12-2024, 12:21 PM   #1
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Yep keep hiding under those branches. A guy ten years younger than I, who could be the nicest and most well-respected of my peers had his ticker go out between days of a deposition.
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Old 05-14-2024, 01:36 PM   #2
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Yep keep hiding under those branches. A guy ten years younger than I, who could be the nicest and most well-respected of my peers had his ticker go out between days of a deposition.
This Covid thing has fucked with people in untold ways. Never had any issue with my health, despite historically having run the machine hard, until last year.

Out of the blue, got a massive, stroke level spike in BP (testing 200/120). All while heart rate was still in low 70s, indicating pretty athletic cardio capacity at that level of stress. Felt fine. Was actually on my way for a run when a chance decision to test it led to discovery.

Scans and scans and tests later, everything came back fine. No organ issues, no left ventricle expansion consistent with longer term exceedingly high BP.

Cause? Unknown. Told to avoid excessive salt. Told booze intake inadequate to cause that kind of spike. No kidney disease. No thyroid issues. Heart attack enzymes actually low. All potential causes eliminated but one: Having had Covid a few times, both before and after having been vaxxed and boosted.

Maybe it was transient (I opted for meds rather than fuck around, which have a delightful calming side effect). Or maybe I'd have had a fucking stroke. I'd never have known except for a chance decision to play with a family member's BP cuff.

You gotta get lucky in life. In so many ways. And maybe you also have to avoid Covid?
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Old 05-14-2024, 02:17 PM   #3
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This Covid thing has fucked with people in untold ways. Never had any issue with my health, despite historically having run the machine hard, until last year.

Out of the blue, got a massive, stroke level spike in BP (testing 200/120). All while heart rate was still in low 70s, indicating pretty athletic cardio capacity at that level of stress. Felt fine. Was actually on my way for a run when a chance decision to test it led to discovery.

Scans and scans and tests later, everything came back fine. No organ issues, no left ventricle expansion consistent with longer term exceedingly high BP.

Cause? Unknown. Told to avoid excessive salt. Told booze intake inadequate to cause that kind of spike. No kidney disease. No thyroid issues. Heart attack enzymes actually low. All potential causes eliminated but one: Having had Covid a few times, both before and after having been vaxxed and boosted.

Maybe it was transient (I opted for meds rather than fuck around, which have a delightful calming side effect). Or maybe I'd have had a fucking stroke. I'd never have known except for a chance decision to play with a family member's BP cuff.

You gotta get lucky in life. In so many ways. And maybe you also have to avoid Covid?
That's scary. I hope it's transient.

I don't know what to make of the people who go on about post-COVID risks. On the one hand, some of them seem a bit, um, touched. On the other hand, why not?
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Old 05-14-2024, 04:43 PM   #4
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This Covid thing has fucked with people in untold ways. Never had any issue with my health, despite historically having run the machine hard, until last year.

Out of the blue, got a massive, stroke level spike in BP (testing 200/120). All while heart rate was still in low 70s, indicating pretty athletic cardio capacity at that level of stress. Felt fine. Was actually on my way for a run when a chance decision to test it led to discovery.

Scans and scans and tests later, everything came back fine. No organ issues, no left ventricle expansion consistent with longer term exceedingly high BP.

Cause? Unknown. Told to avoid excessive salt. Told booze intake inadequate to cause that kind of spike. No kidney disease. No thyroid issues. Heart attack enzymes actually low. All potential causes eliminated but one: Having had Covid a few times, both before and after having been vaxxed and boosted.

Maybe it was transient (I opted for meds rather than fuck around, which have a delightful calming side effect). Or maybe I'd have had a fucking stroke. I'd never have known except for a chance decision to play with a family member's BP cuff.

You gotta get lucky in life. In so many ways. And maybe you also have to avoid Covid?
I think I'm probably 10 years older than most of you (except Icky). Shit gets real.

So I go in for my physical last year. I'm 64 and run 4.5 miles each day. Everyone I used to run with has stopped. I am a Unicorn, and when I do run a road race (seldom) I'll be 12th in my age group, so I'm not saying NO ONE runs at my age, just I do not know them.

My old primary care doc retired. I seeing my new one last year. Results come in- PERFECT- highest "good" cholesterol she has seen, same with testosterone!

BUT my PSA is too high. In 2022 it was 2.7, and the "high normal" range was 4.0- 2.7 was great! In 2023 it was 2.7 but the associated hospital got bought by a very $$$$ driven chain. The fucks lower high normal to 2.5, so now I am high. The doc says I should see a urologist. I argue they just changed the range. But eventually I see one- Prostrate ultrasound (fun!) that shows it is big but otherwise fine.

But he also ran pee tests, which I fail badly. I've retained urine for at least a decade. I have to pee frequently, but I wasn't worried. I can live with it. But em wants to a surgery where he will shave my prostrate. I'm like how soon can I run again? 6 weeks. I tell him no way- my body has a lot of systems and I'm not risking the others by stopping running. He says after 6 weeks I can get back to it. I tell him, it is amazing I still run every day. I am not at all sure I can start up again after 6 weeks.

So the fuck convinces my to do self catheter, meaning you stick a piece of plastic up your pee hole to drain your bladder. He is hocking on me to do it 4 times a day. I can do it once, but if I do it a second time I bleed for a day.

It does feel good to be empty, but not at the price of my dick becoming a bloody wound.

Now he is on me to do this less intrusive operation that will fix it and with only 1 day recovery. Why not lead with that one? The whole thing has the feel of churning my bladder.

And it is all going on because the fucking chain fixed the numbers to drive men to urologists. I did not go see him for peeing, but now I am.

As medical chains go harder for the $$$$ I am sure we will have to tell docs "no thanks" more and more often, and know when to do so.

Have a nice day!
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So I go in for my physical last year. I'm 64 and run 4.5 miles each day. Everyone I used to run with has stopped. I am a Unicorn, and when I do run a road race (seldom) I'll be 12th in my age group, so I'm not saying NO ONE runs at my age, just I do not know them.
I so miss running. My wife convinced me to stop because the heel pain was just worse and worse. I was worried that I'd fuck myself up so I could walk like I want to.
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Old 05-14-2024, 05:25 PM   #6
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I think I'm probably 10 years older than most of you (except Icky). Shit gets real.

So I go in for my physical last year. I'm 64 and run 4.5 miles each day. Everyone I used to run with has stopped. I am a Unicorn, and when I do run a road race (seldom) I'll be 12th in my age group, so I'm not saying NO ONE runs at my age, just I do not know them.

My old primary care doc retired. I seeing my new one last year. Results come in- PERFECT- highest "good" cholesterol she has seen, same with testosterone!

BUT my PSA is too high. In 2022 it was 2.7, and the "high normal" range was 4.0- 2.7 was great! In 2023 it was 2.7 but the associated hospital got bought by a very $$$$ driven chain. The fucks lower high normal to 2.5, so now I am high. The doc says I should see a urologist. I argue they just changed the range. But eventually I see one- Prostrate ultrasound (fun!) that shows it is big but otherwise fine.

But he also ran pee tests, which I fail badly. I've retained urine for at least a decade. I have to pee frequently, but I wasn't worried. I can live with it. But em wants to a surgery where he will shave my prostrate. I'm like how soon can I run again? 6 weeks. I tell him no way- my body has a lot of systems and I'm not risking the others by stopping running. He says after 6 weeks I can get back to it. I tell him, it is amazing I still run every day. I am not at all sure I can start up again after 6 weeks.

So the fuck convinces my to do self catheter, meaning you stick a piece of plastic up your pee hole to drain your bladder. He is hocking on me to do it 4 times a day. I can do it once, but if I do it a second time I bleed for a day.

It does feel good to be empty, but not at the price of my dick becoming a bloody wound.

Now he is on me to do this less intrusive operation that will fix it and with only 1 day recovery. Why not lead with that one? The whole thing has the feel of churning my bladder.

And it is all going on because the fucking chain fixed the numbers to drive men to urologists. I did not go see him for peeing, but now I am.

As medical chains go harder for the $$$$ I am sure we will have to tell docs "no thanks" more and more often, and know when to do so.

Have a nice day!
Well, I thank you very much for making me feel a hell of a lot better about my little situation.
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Well, I thank you very much for making me feel a hell of a lot better about my little situation.
Not my intent. I wished I had told my PCP "I'm not going." At a minimum we cannot blindly trust a doc.

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I think I'm probably 10 years older than most of you (except Icky). Shit gets real.

So I go in for my physical last year. I'm 64 and run 4.5 miles each day. Everyone I used to run with has stopped. I am a Unicorn, and when I do run a road race (seldom) I'll be 12th in my age group, so I'm not saying NO ONE runs at my age, just I do not know them.

My old primary care doc retired. I seeing my new one last year. Results come in- PERFECT- highest "good" cholesterol she has seen, same with testosterone!

BUT my PSA is too high. In 2022 it was 2.7, and the "high normal" range was 4.0- 2.7 was great! In 2023 it was 2.7 but the associated hospital got bought by a very $$$$ driven chain. The fucks lower high normal to 2.5, so now I am high. The doc says I should see a urologist. I argue they just changed the range. But eventually I see one- Prostrate ultrasound (fun!) that shows it is big but otherwise fine.

But he also ran pee tests, which I fail badly. I've retained urine for at least a decade. I have to pee frequently, but I wasn't worried. I can live with it. But em wants to a surgery where he will shave my prostrate. I'm like how soon can I run again? 6 weeks. I tell him no way- my body has a lot of systems and I'm not risking the others by stopping running. He says after 6 weeks I can get back to it. I tell him, it is amazing I still run every day. I am not at all sure I can start up again after 6 weeks.

So the fuck convinces my to do self catheter, meaning you stick a piece of plastic up your pee hole to drain your bladder. He is hocking on me to do it 4 times a day. I can do it once, but if I do it a second time I bleed for a day.

It does feel good to be empty, but not at the price of my dick becoming a bloody wound.

Now he is on me to do this less intrusive operation that will fix it and with only 1 day recovery. Why not lead with that one? The whole thing has the feel of churning my bladder.

And it is all going on because the fucking chain fixed the numbers to drive men to urologists. I did not go see him for peeing, but now I am.

As medical chains go harder for the $$$$ I am sure we will have to tell docs "no thanks" more and more often, and know when to do so.

Have a nice day!
Time for a new medical group -- but oh wait, they've ALL retired.

62 here and also average 4 miles a day.

One thing I have noticed is that my peeing is better when I overhydrate. When I down a liter of water after a run, I pee less but more completely if that makes sense.
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The Youngest Slothrop has been drawn to Barnard, but reading this is a huge turn-off. It just sounds miserable for everyone.
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The Youngest Slothrop has been drawn to Barnard, but reading this is a huge turn-off. It just sounds miserable for everyone.
I think like most everything else, this stuff impacts 25% of people on campus. The media loves conflict, so they report on these stories as if the entire campus is comprised of warring factions.

I've never been at a protest of any kind in my life. I wouldn't know if they occurred or didn't, and I think that's pretty healthy.

Protests for civil rights were serious fucking things. Protesting against Vietnam was deadly serious. These were both instances in which Americans involved in the protests were at direct risk. They were fighting for their lives in many regards.

Protests like those on the news are performative. They have a religious feel to them, that smell of people needing to belong to something and having an axe to grind. That stink of upper middle-class immaturity, of those coddled by feckless academia and helicopter parents.

I'd bet a bottle of the best scotch Hank ever had that life has gone on just fine for the uninvolved on these campuses. If it's privilege to think most modern protestors frivolous, I wave that flag wide and high.

Most of us have better things to do, and most of us understand the futility of protesting wildly complex things that don't directly involve us 5000 miles away. If one needs to feel part of a movement, or important, to feel like life has meaning, I feel bad for you. You're a seeker in exactly the wrong place.
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I think like most everything else, this stuff impacts 25% of people on campus. The media loves conflict, so they report on these stories as if the entire campus is comprised of warring factions.

I've never been at a protest of any kind in my life. I wouldn't know if they occurred or didn't, and I think that's pretty healthy.

Protests for civil rights were serious fucking things. Protesting against Vietnam was deadly serious. These were both instances in which Americans involved in the protests were at direct risk. They were fighting for their lives in many regards.

Protests like those on the news are performative. They have a religious feel to them, that smell of people needing to belong to something and having an axe to grind. That stink of upper middle-class immaturity, of those coddled by feckless academia and helicopter parents.

I'd bet a bottle of the best scotch Hank ever had that life has gone on just fine for the uninvolved on these campuses. If it's privilege to think most modern protestors frivolous, I wave that flag wide and high.

Most of us have better things to do, and most of us understand the futility of protesting wildly complex things that don't directly involve us 5000 miles away. If one needs to feel part of a movement, or important, to feel like life has meaning, I feel bad for you. You're a seeker in exactly the wrong place.
In response to Sebby, they cancelled graduation so 100% of students were impacted.


My son just graduated law school in Detroit. We have a huge Arabic population and the school’s student body reflects that. Was wondering if there would be any walkout, but no.

In response to Ty, not looking for an argument, but since they cancelled graduation what did she decline to speak at?
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You gotta get lucky in life. In so many ways. And maybe you also have to avoid Covid?
While I had issues precovid, when I had it in 3/2020, it led to a whole host of odd things happening to my body.

I could no longer eat certain things, every time I had a stressful situation covid symptoms reappeared for like an hour.
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