Politics As Usual

[Secret_Agent_Man]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...gns/index.html

Spree: See the descriptor tag.

So, will this be enough, or will we see Wolfowitz, Feith, and/or Rumsfeld go before November?

S_A_M

[Replaced_Texan]

George Tenet Resigns

Bush: CIA Director George Tenet Resigns

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By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - CIA (news - web sites) Director George Tenet, who weathered storms over intelligence lapses about suspected weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (news - web sites) and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, has resigned, President Bush (news - web sites) said Thursday.

"I will miss him," Bush said.

Tenet came to the White House to inform Bush about his decision Wednesday night. "He told me he was resigning for personal reasons," Bush said. "I told him I'm sorry he's leaving. He's done a superb job on behalf of the American people."

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by baltassoc

Mark my words: I will be telling my grandchildren about how I used to live in a land of freedom, but that was before the wave after wave of "reforms" in the name of combatting terrorism and improving investigation results, all started by the Patriot Act. I'll refer them to you to tell them why the Empiress Jenna really needs to have a camera in their bedrooms.

believe me, your words are marked. 2 more reforms and we're going to be detaining you.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
So many layers . . . it's like an onion . . . .

Query for the Con-side: did the impeachment (a.) help; (b.) hinder; or (c.) have no effect whatsoever on America's ability to respond appropriately to terrorist threats?

If your answer is (a.), who gets the credit, Clinton or the House GOP?

If your answer is (b.), who gets the blame, Clinton or the House GOP?

If your answer is (c.), I'll take my answer off the air.

b- house GOP to blame. It was more damaging internally, and ultimately let the fuck become somewhat rehabilitated.

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Very nice of you to make fun of the guy for the way he talks. Y'all didn't learn your lesson from making fun of, uhm, Quayle's "uhms"?

Right, I got the memo about how "silly pictures" have joined the long list of things (already including "dissent", "atheism", "civil liberties" and "questioning the actions of government") are now unamerican.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
George Tenet Resigns

Bush: CIA Director George Tenet Resigns

2 minutes ago Add U.S. Government - AP to My Yahoo!


By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - CIA (news - web sites) Director George Tenet, who weathered storms over intelligence lapses about suspected weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (news - web sites) and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, has resigned, President Bush (news - web sites) said Thursday.

"I will miss him," Bush said.

Tenet came to the White House to inform Bush about his decision Wednesday night. "He told me he was resigning for personal reasons," Bush said. "I told him I'm sorry he's leaving. He's done a superb job on behalf of the American people."

Is he resigning or are they breaking up?

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Right, I got the memo about how "silly pictures" have joined the long list of things (already including "dissent", "atheism", "civil liberties" and "questioning the actions of government") are now unamerican.

First I find the Dem's Trojan Hoss arguing here that drugs are moral, and now I find out the whole Dem party was just kidding with that whole political correctness thing. OK, OK, its cool if you make fun of the guy for talking with his hands. What's next, handicapped orphans?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Is he resigning or are they breaking up?

"It's not you, it's me. My need for a fall guy. Can we still be friends?"

ETA The thought of Bush and Tenet together is actually kinda hot. Maybe that "Can we still be friends?" should be "Can we still sleep together when no one else is available?"

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Anyone who testifies before a grand jury has potential exposure -- if only related to the testimony rather than the substance being investigated.

If there is a chance they'll ask him questions -- he'd be nuts not to get his own lawyer. As Ty notes, the Clinton-era prosecutions establishes that neither DOJ nor the White House counsel can represent the President personally.

S_A_M

Understood, but I highly doubt he will be called in front of a grand jury. Ty do you have a cite for this? Is it clear from the artlce that it was in connection with the Plume matter, or is there some conjecture going on.

[sgtclub]

Just a reminder, job numbers come out this Friday. Any predictions?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Understood, but I highly doubt he will be called in front of a grand jury. Ty do you have a cite for this? Is it clear from the artlce that it was in connection with the Plume matter, or is there some conjecture going on.

Plame.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../bush_cia_leak

There's also an article on cnn, but I couldn't get it to come up. Must be getting a lot of hits.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Plame.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../bush_cia_leak

There's also an article on cnn, but I couldn't get it to come up. Must be getting a lot of hits.

So he's consulted with (but not yet hired) a lawyer. I still highly doubt that the AG is going to put him in front of a grand jury, unless it is absolutely necessary.

[Shape Shifter]

http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stori...189429,00.html

(Condi says history will rank W as a statesman alongside Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill)

Oh, brother. That's just rich. How does she keep a straight face when she says this shit? Regardless of your view on the war in Iraq, it's hardly been a diplomatic tour de force (pardon my French). Wasn't it Kissinger who said the essence of statesmanship is nuance?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
So he's consulted with (but not yet hired) a lawyer. I still highly doubt that the AG is going to put him in front of a grand jury, unless it is absolutely necessary.

Ashcroft recused himself, so it won't be up to him. It's the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois who's running the show. Knowing little about the investigation, I would tend to agree, but the President knows something we don't that prompted him to get counsel. So, you never know.

eta: Maybe I need to listen to NPR more.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Understood, but I highly doubt he will be called in front of a grand jury. Ty do you have a cite for this? Is it clear from the artlce that it was in connection with the Plume matter, or is there some conjecture going on.

No. They will question him -- but if its under oath it would be by deposition at the WH. My cite would be the NPR report on Morning Edition. WH confirms Bush retained [lawyer X] regarding the Plame matter -- refused to confirm or deny whether Cheney had retained counsel.

S_A_M