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sebastian_dangerfield · 11-04-2016, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

It takes a lot of work to establish a well-functioning non-profit, and while your argument is logical correct, the fact that the people running the Clinton Foundation have done such a good job doing what they are ostensibly doing tends to suggest that they haven't been doing it for the ulterior motive of running a pay-to-play scheme.

An example consistent with this is the Trump Foundation, which obviously has been run for purposes other than doing good work, and hasn't managed to do good work.

It's worse than that. If he wins, he'll also be dragged thru endless investigations. And possibly impeached for God knows what.

Give me a can't win hand and demand I play it? Sorry. Pass.

notcasesensitive · 11-04-2016, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

So now unless I vote for Hillary I'm aiding and abetting sexism and making women feel bad?

Did I have a similar obligation in 2008 because Obama was the first Black President?

This is heartfelt, but not a logical basis for me or anyone else to make a decision.

I dislike them both and she's going to win my state anyway. I'm not the enemy.

I never said you were. My feelings about this election have nothing to do with you (sorry if my responding to Flower's post for some reason made you think I posted this here because of you -- my reasons for posting are really pretty clear in the post).

But for me and countless other women in this country, this is no joke.

Hank Chinaski · 11-04-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Just wanted to see this bit of brilliance again in light of recent events.

TM

what recent events?

sebastian_dangerfield · 11-04-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

I never said you were. My feelings about this election have nothing to do with you (sorry if my responding to Flower's post for some reason made you think I posted this here because of you -- my reasons for posting are really pretty clear in the post).

But for me and countless other women in this country, this is no joke.

Understood. Totally reasonable.

If it's any consolation, most of the Trumpkins seem focused more on her last name than her sex. We're ready for a woman president. She just brought a ton of baggage that made her candidacy problematic.

And she's going to win anyway. The media's just trying to create a horse race. Under the math, he's fucked.

Pretty Little Flower · 11-04-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Let me get this straight: Not voting for Trump is inadequate. I must vote for Hillary?

From what planet are you people?

I swear I could write an absurdist play about the way you respond to things that nobody ever said. I would explain my joke to you and explain how I never said whom you should vote for, but I can see that you're understandably quite sensitive from all the nerf brains attacking you here, so I'm just gonna let it go. Also, I think it's fine to end sentences with prepositions these days in order to avoid awkward constructions, but I realize this opinion is not uncontroversial.

Replaced_Texan · 11-04-2016, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

I never said you were. My feelings about this election have nothing to do with you (sorry if my responding to Flower's post for some reason made you think I posted this here because of you -- my reasons for posting are really pretty clear in the post).

But for me and countless other women in this country, this is no joke.

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 11-04-2016, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

That was quite ridiculous. Someone should lose a job for that.

In Fox-world, that was not ridiculous, that was Thursday. Where have you been the last couple of decades?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 11-04-2016, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

I never said you were. My feelings about this election have nothing to do with you (sorry if my responding to Flower's post for some reason made you think I posted this here because of you -- my reasons for posting are really pretty clear in the post).

But for me and countless other women in this country, this is no joke.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 11-04-2016, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

If it's any consolation, most of the Trumpkins seem focused more on her last name than her sex. We're ready for a woman president.

Icky Thump · 11-04-2016, 06:12 PM

Signs are pointing to the end of civilization as we know it. First the Cubs, then (if) Trump, then poof your job is gone, the economy gone, your 401k is worthless, US defaults on all its bonds and all of the other countries say "Sorry fuckers, no refugees here." Se we all are hunting rabbits to eat with Rick Grimes.

sebastian_dangerfield · 11-04-2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I swear I could write an absurdist play about the way you respond to things that nobody ever said. I would explain my joke to you and explain how I never said whom you should vote for, but I can see that you're understandably quite sensitive from all the nerf brains attacking you here, so I'm just gonna let it go. Also, I think it's fine to end sentences with prepositions these days in order to avoid awkward constructions, but I realize this opinion is not uncontroversial.

"Jumping off," it's called. Sorry. I was lazy and just fired a general reply to your joke.

But it does kind of fit. You offered a joke, and I used it to note something absurd... That I'm getting shit for not voting for Hilary. I'm not voting for Trump, but that's not good enough. People here think I have to share their alarm, and I need to vote for Hillary! WTF?

sebastian_dangerfield · 11-04-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

In Fox-world, that was not ridiculous, that was Thursday. Where have you been the last couple of decades?

Even for Fox, that's bad. And the Journal did it as well.

notcasesensitive · 11-04-2016, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Understood. Totally reasonable.

If it's any consolation, most of the Trumpkins seem focused more on her last name than her sex. We're ready for a woman president. She just brought a ton of baggage that made her candidacy problematic.

And she's going to win anyway. The media's just trying to create a horse race. Under the math, he's fucked.

"We're ready for a woman, just not THIS woman." Right. We'll see how long it takes for another woman to get this far along the path if Hillary doesn't win... I can't say I agree with your analysis on this one.

sebastian_dangerfield · 11-04-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

"We're ready for a woman, just not THIS woman." Right. We'll see how long it takes for another woman to get this far along the path if Hillary doesn't win... I can't say I agree with your analysis on this one.

Not this CLINTON. But yes -- there's sexism in this as well. I just don't see near as much of that as I do Clinton hatred.

The behavior that got her and Bill where they are is the problem.

notcasesensitive · 11-04-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Not this CLINTON. But yes -- there's sexism in this as well. I just don't see near as much of that as I do Clinton hatred.

The behavior that got her and Bill where they are is the problem.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...nap-story.html

"broad-shouldered leadership"
"not presidential"
"lacks stamina"

And that's just (oft-repeated) direct quotes from Trump and Pence. The messages on shirts/hats/gun holders of Trump supporters at his rallies rise to another level entirely.