Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Unless he can physically block that kid from the ER, his objection is ineffectual. It’s also ghoulish.

We’ll give that kid treatment, and we’ll try to send a bill and collect, and when we can’t we’ll write it off.

There are hospitals that would transport the kid to a different facility.

Tax-exempt ERs are required to take the kid as part of their exemption; for profit-facilities are not, and you'll get different answers in different states.

As to who pays, are you saying it should always be the hospital writing it off - so a hospital in the burbs will have next to no write-offs where one in, say, the Mississippi Delta may be overwhelmed by them? Should it ever be a social cost?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

But the guy who loses his job and has to pay $3600 a month in Cobra just to extend his health plan may say, naw.

The ACA has won an enormous number of regular working class folks over - until the Rs started gutting it, it had started to bend the curve of medical costs down and massively expanded the pool of insured.

The laid off blue color worker who had a high paying job that they lost is the trope of the 80s and Springsteen Songs. The person with a dead end job from the get go, who never got a union job, and who is trying to make it work in a family with three to four jobs between two people and employers trying to get hours low enough to avoid providing healthcare is the working class experience today. It's a very different set of concerns, and that is something I think very few of the 50 something white male op-ed writers pontificating on this stuff understand. They may have empathy for the experience of their peers, but they just don't get that it's really different if you're 30 years old and working class today than it was back then. But these are key folks to get covered.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

With july 4th coming up, we're going to have our usual gathering of 60-70 family members in multiple beach houses. My teenage son is making ice cream - he'll have 15-20 flavors, and his selections will range from things using our berries to some fairly standard flavors to things like molasses, saffron, and cardamom. He does sorbets as well and is going to try a couple gellatos.

What's the tastiest most offbeat kind of ice cream you've had? (everything must be gluten free - no cookie anythings).

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

With july 4th coming up, we're going to have our usual gathering of 60-70 family members in multiple beach houses. My teenage son is making ice cream - he'll have 15-20 flavors, and his selections will range from things using our berries to some fairly standard flavors to things like molasses, saffron, and cardamom. He does sorbets as well and is going to try a couple gellatos.

What's the tastiest most offbeat kind of ice cream you've had? (everything must be gluten free - no cookie anythings).

So now people have to request gluten *IN* their food? I suggest having a with-gluten option for those of your family who are quite capable of digesting it.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Why haven't the other dems figured this out? Win, then set the agenda rather than the other way around because if we set a progressive agenda first, WE WILL LOSE.

Yeah, I think that's exactly backward in today's environment where progressive (and young, POC, etc) stay home if we're trying to sell Republican light.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

ETA read the comments. About half are people saying "I'm a democrat but I'm voting for Trump." If that isn't a failure by the Democratic party, I don't know what is.

Is glorious day for Russia social media comrades.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

So now people have to request gluten *IN* their food? I suggest having a with-gluten option for those of your family who are quite capable of digesting it.

Bad genes in this family, the crowd is majority gluten free. If anyone tries to sneak gluten in during the week they will be shunned.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Bad genes in this family, the crowd is majority gluten free. If anyone tries to sneak gluten in during the week they will be shunned.

translation: Coltrane and I cannot crash the beach party

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

translation: Coltrane and I cannot crash the beach party

look, if you don't like lobster, chicken, eggplant, potatoes, and corn on the grill, a dozen kinds of salad, and mandarin almond, ricotta cardamom, or fresh min ice cream, there's not much we can do for you. Sorry there's no roll with it.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

There are hospitals that would transport the kid to a different facility.

Tax-exempt ERs are required to take the kid as part of their exemption; for profit-facilities are not, and you'll get different answers in different states.

If they did so without stabilizing the kid, it'd be an EMTALA violation, and EMTALA wars are no fun at all.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

With july 4th coming up, we're going to have our usual gathering of 60-70 family members in multiple beach houses. My teenage son is making ice cream - he'll have 15-20 flavors, and his selections will range from things using our berries to some fairly standard flavors to things like molasses, saffron, and cardamom. He does sorbets as well and is going to try a couple gellatos.

What's the tastiest most offbeat kind of ice cream you've had? (everything must be gluten free - no cookie anythings).

There's an outfit here that does the farmer's market circuit that makes amazing ice cream. Hands down the most awesome is Blueberry Lavender, but they also do a kick ass Mexican chocolate.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

There's an outfit here that does the farmer's market circuit that makes amazing ice cream. Hands down the most awesome is Blueberry Lavender, but they also do a kick ass Mexican chocolate.

oooh, we have lavender, and we have blueberry, but they were going into separate ice creams. I will mention this.

He has his own incredible chocolate variety, which involves first making a chocolate mouse, then a cardamon cream, and swirling them together in the ice cream.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

There are hospitals that would transport the kid to a different facility.

Tax-exempt ERs are required to take the kid as part of their exemption; for profit-facilities are not, and you'll get different answers in different states.

As to who pays, are you saying it should always be the hospital writing it off - so a hospital in the burbs will have next to no write-offs where one in, say, the Mississippi Delta may be overwhelmed by them? Should it ever be a social cost?

In that very limited circumstance which you describe, which covers a tiny pool of people, it can be covered through a line item hidden in a budget that no one will notice.

Standing up at a debate and saying “I believe in free healthcare for illegals“ is a far different thing. The picture painted there is one of billions upon billions being spent.

Healthcare for illegals is an issue the Democrats should run from at every turn in this campaign. There is no way to frame that argument that allows Ds to overcome the GOP talking point, “you want giveaways for illegals!”

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Is glorious day for Russia social media comrades.

I think it was Lou Reed who said, “trust none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.” He died too soon.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I think it was Lou Reed who said, “trust none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.” He died too soon.

If Lou Reed was talking about the comments on internet posts, he was half-right.