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[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

If a mom has 6 kids, how does a responsible doctor (a) agree to provide fertility treatment and (b) allow the mother to carry 8 fetuses to term? (I thought that fertility docs generally reduced to 2 or 3 because of the usual concerns over multiples . . .

It's like lawyers representing repeat offenders....


I think decisions over reduction are left to patients. Many oppose reduction on religious grounds.

[Penske_Account]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Das boosit.

I cashed out, dabbled back in and saved 25% of my portfolio. The people telling you not to cash out are the ones who don't want you further depressing the prices as they cash out.

I'm thinking of cashing out, taking the tax hit, and doing some remodeling to get some equity in the house.......

[Penske_Account]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

How much for my virgin hairy big brown eye?

What definition of "virgin" are you using? No offence.

[Penske_Account]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

If a mom has 6 kids, how does a responsible doctor (a) agree to provide fertility treatment and (b) allow the mother to carry 8 fetuses to term? (I thought that fertility docs generally reduced to 2 or 3 because of the usual concerns over multiples . . .

Maybe he had a piece of the action in the TV series?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

If a mom has 6 kids, how does a responsible doctor (a) agree to provide fertility treatment and (b) allow the mother to carry 8 fetuses to term? (I thought that fertility docs generally reduced to 2 or 3 because of the usual concerns over multiples . . .

In the doc's defense, they thought there were only 7 kids in there.

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

If a mom has 6 kids, how does a responsible doctor (a) agree to provide fertility treatment and (b) allow the mother to carry 8 fetuses to term? (I thought that fertility docs generally reduced to 2 or 3 because of the usual concerns over multiples . . .

My first thought was to wonder why someone with 6 kids would want any more, much less go through fertility treatment to get them.

(a): I'm surprised a doctor would implant that many fetuses, whether or not a woman already had 6 kids. I thought it was usually no more than 3 or 4, and a small woman I know had just 2 implanted because she didn't want the risk of more. I assumed it was fertility drugs and not IVR.

(b) I don't think docs have any right to force a mother to terminate any fetuses even if the number is that high. They probably have a duty to advise of the health risks but can't do anything more.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Here is the lineup:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/articl...ineup-its-here

I love how Throbbing Gristle gets higher billing on Sunday (or at least equally high, depending on how you look at it) than Lupe Fiasco and that band with the annoying whistling song.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Here is the lineup:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/articl...ineup-its-here

I love how Throbbing Gristle gets higher billing on Sunday (or at least equally high, depending on how you look at it) than Lupe Fiasco and that band with the annoying whistling song.

you are an annoying whistle.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

you are an annoying whistle.

Why so angry, Hank? You're so full of hate, yet I sense you have so much love to give.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

If a mom has 6 kids, how does a responsible doctor (a) agree to provide fertility treatment and (b) allow the mother to carry 8 fetuses to term?

I think that insurance companies should seek payment from the fertility clinics when these multi-million dollar multiple birth deliveries happen.

(I thought that fertility docs generally reduced to 2 or 3 because of the usual concerns over multiples . . .

They try to. Or at least they tried to with the Jon & Kate plus 8 couple. A lot of times the couples aren't exactly pro-choice and selective termination isn't really considered an option. I suspect if they had to foot the delivery and NICU bills themselves, they'd think a little harder about it.

My boyfriend and I talked a little about this last night. I said I had no problem with selective termination if I'm carrying more than three fetuses due to fertility treatment. He said he had no problem with adoption if for some reason we can't get pregnant.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Here is the lineup:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/articl...ineup-its-here

I love how Throbbing Gristle gets higher billing on Sunday (or at least equally high, depending on how you look at it) than Lupe Fiasco and that band with the annoying whistling song.

Whoa. Early this year.

No can do. I'm doing the MS150 that weekend.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Fugee

My first thought was to wonder why someone with 6 kids would want any more, much less go through fertility treatment to get them.

(a): I'm surprised a doctor would implant that many fetuses, whether or not a woman already had 6 kids. I thought it was usually no more than 3 or 4, and a small woman I know had just 2 implanted because she didn't want the risk of more. I assumed it was fertility drugs and not IVR.

(b) I don't think docs have any right to force a mother to terminate any fetuses even if the number is that high. They probably have a duty to advise of the health risks but can't do anything more.

So what you're saying is when she decided to have more, and the doc told her there were 7*, she said "Jackpot"?

*Hy, Ti!

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I think that insurance companies should seek payment from the fertility clinics when these multi-million dollar multiple birth deliveries happen.

2. I can't think of any justification to implant 8 embryos, especially in someone who already has 6 kids. It's not like it was her last chance to have a child and they did it to guarantee she'd get at least one child. Even then, I think the risk would be too great for that many embryos.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Why so angry, Hank? You're so full of hate, yet I sense you have so much love to give.

It bothers me too. I think i fear rejection because my mommy didn't breast feed me maybe, and she had magnificant ta-tas, ask Thurgreed if you don't beleive me.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I think that insurance companies should seek payment from the fertility clinics when these multi-million dollar multiple birth deliveries happen.



They try to. Or at least they tried to with the Jon & Kate plus 8 couple. A lot of times the couples aren't exactly pro-choice and selective termination isn't really considered an option. I suspect if they had to foot the delivery and NICU bills themselves, they'd think a little harder about it.

My boyfriend and I talked a little about this last night. I said I had no problem with selective termination if I'm carrying more than three fetuses due to fertility treatment. He said he had no problem with adoption if for some reason we can't get pregnant.

What I don't get is how a doctor can ethically implant eight embryos in a woman who is already a single parent living with her parents and has six children already. It is absolutely ridiculous. If a woman wants to get her tubes tied, she has to go through (in most states, as I understand it) psychological counselling. And then she has to wait. And then, if she's married, she has to get permission from her husband (I am not making this point because I think its sexist, because married men have to get permission from their wives to have a vasectomy, but rather, that its another obstacle). So if you don't want kids, there's something wrong with you and you need psychological counselling, but if you want 14, there's a doctor who will fix you right up. Insanity.

And I say this as someone who would have a very hard time "selectively reducing" if it happened to me. I think if I want kids and can't have them, I'll adopt.