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Old 10-29-2008, 05:11 PM   #916
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Yes, congrats on the kid. Speaking of a kid, I have a hypothetical ethical dillema. Assume for the purposes of the hypothetical that I have a hypothetical wife and a hypothetical three and a half y.o. daughter.

On Sunday, my wife's sister finds a kitten. Maybe 4-7 mos. old. My wife's sister has cats and does not want them exposed to the kitten in case the kitten has Leukemia or whatever. So my wife, not thinking it through, agrees to keep the cat while her sister looks for the owner. Of course, my daughter immediately falls in love with the cat. We have to tell her repeatedly that we are looking for the real owner and when we find the real owner, we have to give the cat back. This is devastating to my daughter. When pressed by my daughter's repeated questioning, we admit that, if we cannot find the real owner, we can keep the cat.

My wife's sister drops the ball on looking for the owner, so on Monday, we contact the humane society, fill out paperwork at animal control, and put up posters in the neighborhood where the cat was found, which is a bit of a sketchy neighborhood. In the meantime, my daughter has become completely stressed out about this. Her first question every morning is if we got a call from the cat's owners during the night. If the cat disappears into the basement for a while, she asks if the owners have come to get it. This morning, she insisted that we had the cat long enough and that it was ours. I said we were still looking for the owners and we might have to give it back, and she started to cry.

This afternoon, my wife gets a call. "Uh, yeah, I'm calling about the cat. The kitty. My name's Rodney. Call me at _______." That's it. He did not sem particularly grateful or relieved, just kind of matter of fact. My wife calls me and asks what to do. I say to call him and, if it seems appropriate, you can mention that our daughter has become attached and we would be willing to keep the cat. So my wife calls and Rodney says he saw the poster and that it's his cat. He does not say much more than that, and my wife mentions that our daughter has become attached and if there is any reason he does not want the cat, we would keep it. He says he has become attached, too. My wife says, O.K., we'll bring him back. He says, O.K., but it is a "her," not a "him." My wife says, no, it is actually a boy. He says he looked "back there" but could not see much. My wife explains that, although small, there are definitely boy parts there. Then, he says: "Well, O.K. You can keep him. It is my gift to you and your daughter. My landlord said I could only have a girl cat because boy cats spray all over. But you should know how I got the cat. I have only had the cat a week. It just came running into my apartment from the street a week ago. I did not even know it was missing because I work so much, but someone put one of your flyers in my apartment. Anyway, you can take down the posters and keep the cat."

My wife thanked him profusely and then they hung up. Of course, there is probably some previous owner out there. And the way it went down with Rodney was definitely weird. What should we do? Keep looking for the prior owners? Take down the posters and assume the cat is ours? The humane society and animal control still have the cat's information, although nobody had reported him missing as of Monday. What if Rodney changes his mind?
Leave the signs up. Keep the cat. And if some jackass calls and says it is their cat, give it to him and buy your daughter another cat. She will get over it quickly and there is a lesson there ("Would you want someone to keep your pet if it ran away or would you want them to return it to you?").

My daughter wanted a hamster more than anything. I have her on the weekends and told her that if she wants a hamster she would have to take care of it and it would be her responsibility, so her mother would have to get her one (which she did). Hamsty McFluffster (that was the name my crazy daughter gave the hamster) was a mean fucker. Bit my daughter every time she tried to pick him up. They moved his cage to the basement because of the smell and the little shit died of unknown causes.

My daughter was devastated, my ex told me. She couldn't even bring herself to tell me about the death on the phone. Later that day, I finally talked to her and asked her how she was feeling. She said, "Fine. I really loved Hamsty, but now he's gone." I asked her if she was going to get a new hamster and she said, "No way. Hamsters are mean." And that was that.

(What that has to do with your problem, I don't know. I just know these feelings of intense love for new pets* are often the same feelings of intense love for a new doll. It fades pretty fast and they move on to something else.)

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*I concede that it's very different with long-time family pets.
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I stand by my earlier position. I have read this Philadelphia Lawyer chap's interweb log site and it is singularly the most potent concentration of blowhardian mindless self indulgence to be found on or off the internets. .
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Yes, I noticed that in my copy (which is not quite paperback, not quite hardback) too. So far, I have read three essays. I use one a night as a sleep-aid.
A goddamn travesty, that typo. But hardly unusual considering the pompous blowhard who wrote the bloated screed. One can imagine endless ramblings from this long-winded jackass, and a poor, overworked editor scrambling to address an endless stream of appalling grammatical offenses.
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Yes, I noticed that in my copy (which is not quite paperback, not quite hardback) too. So far, I have read three essays. I use one a night as a sleep-aid.
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Hmm. I never got the sense from any of his writings that he was pro-theft on principle. Are you suggesting he is some sort of communist?

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Yes, congrats on the kid. Speaking of a kid, I have a hypothetical ethical dillema. Assume for the purposes of the hypothetical that I have a hypothetical wife and a hypothetical three and a half y.o. daughter.

On Sunday, my wife's sister finds a kitten. Maybe 4-7 mos. old. ?

Hi-dee-hoe olde chapp!

As you know, I want to help. Always. But, you lost me on the above.....was the kitten hypothetical or real?


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Yes, congrats on the kid. Speaking of a kid, I have a hypothetical ethical dillema. Assume for the purposes of the hypothetical that I have a hypothetical wife and a hypothetical three and a half y.o. daughter.

On Sunday, my wife's sister finds a kitten. Maybe 4-7 mos. old. My wife's sister has cats and does not want them exposed to the kitten in case the kitten has Leukemia or whatever. So my wife, not thinking it through, agrees to keep the cat while her sister looks for the owner. Of course, my daughter immediately falls in love with the cat. We have to tell her repeatedly that we are looking for the real owner and when we find the real owner, we have to give the cat back. This is devastating to my daughter. When pressed by my daughter's repeated questioning, we admit that, if we cannot find the real owner, we can keep the cat.

My wife's sister drops the ball on looking for the owner, so on Monday, we contact the humane society, fill out paperwork at animal control, and put up posters in the neighborhood where the cat was found, which is a bit of a sketchy neighborhood. In the meantime, my daughter has become completely stressed out about this. Her first question every morning is if we got a call from the cat's owners during the night. If the cat disappears into the basement for a while, she asks if the owners have come to get it. This morning, she insisted that we had the cat long enough and that it was ours. I said we were still looking for the owners and we might have to give it back, and she started to cry.

This afternoon, my wife gets a call. "Uh, yeah, I'm calling about the cat. The kitty. My name's Rodney. Call me at _______." That's it. He did not sem particularly grateful or relieved, just kind of matter of fact. My wife calls me and asks what to do. I say to call him and, if it seems appropriate, you can mention that our daughter has become attached and we would be willing to keep the cat. So my wife calls and Rodney says he saw the poster and that it's his cat. He does not say much more than that, and my wife mentions that our daughter has become attached and if there is any reason he does not want the cat, we would keep it. He says he has become attached, too. My wife says, O.K., we'll bring him back. He says, O.K., but it is a "her," not a "him." My wife says, no, it is actually a boy. He says he looked "back there" but could not see much. My wife explains that, although small, there are definitely boy parts there. Then, he says: "Well, O.K. You can keep him. It is my gift to you and your daughter. My landlord said I could only have a girl cat because boy cats spray all over. But you should know how I got the cat. I have only had the cat a week. It just came running into my apartment from the street a week ago. I did not even know it was missing because I work so much, but someone put one of your flyers in my apartment. Anyway, you can take down the posters and keep the cat."

My wife thanked him profusely and then they hung up. Of course, there is probably some previous owner out there. And the way it went down with Rodney was definitely weird. What should we do? Keep looking for the prior owners? Take down the posters and assume the cat is ours? The humane society and animal control still have the cat's information, although nobody had reported him missing as of Monday. What if Rodney changes his mind?
Tough love. Give it away and tell your daughter, "Look, there'll be a lot more let downs in this life and it's time you start getting used to it."
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I was home alone this morning with the nanny. Should I have done her?

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Arssuming your HR goes over 150 during the sexxxing, and you can last at least 30 minutes, then you can log this little session and in pensky's book, I think this would be nothing but another work-out on the Road to Kona (tm).

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Tough love. Give it away and tell your daughter, "Look, there'll be a lot more let downs in this life and it's time you start getting used to it."
Just put away the golf balls first.
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A goddamn travesty, that typo. But hardly unusual considering the pompous blowhard who wrote the bloated screed. One can imagine endless ramblings from this long-winded jackass, and a poor, overworked editor scrambling to address an endless stream of appalling grammatical offenses.

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I run with a very attractive crowd, so this was probably inevitable.

A friend's daughter is in Playboy. Not the magazine, YET, just as one of what seem like dozens of "cyber girls."

I looked at the teaser page but did not pay to "sell the whole shoot."

I would never have impure thought relative to the girl, as I watched her grow up.

When i see the parents, my plan is to say that I have seen the teaser page.

I don't think it plausible that someone in the neighborhood would not have heard, and looked.

I'm not sure if i should say I didn't pay to see the shoot, as it might be a "protests too much" thing.

I think I will say, "she is pretty, she looks like ___- with no top on."

i think saying nothing could be seen as creepy.

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Landing strip. Yay?

She told yuo that!?!?! Lucie's got some splainin' to do!
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