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Old 07-10-2024, 03:09 PM   #2611
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I hear this a lot, but it’s never offered with an explanation. Do you have one?
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Old 07-10-2024, 03:10 PM   #2612
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It doesn't seem like Biden wants to step down.

If he does, it's got to be Harris, because she is the VP and because her supporters in the Democratic Party -- who are key constituencies -- would feel betrayed, legitimately, if anyone else were elevated above her.
Agreed. She also polls better than the rest.
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I hear this a lot, but it’s never offered with an explanation. Do you have one?
Black woman. Sexism and racism in one nice package.
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Old 07-11-2024, 10:54 AM   #2614
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I hear this a lot, but it’s never offered with an explanation. Do you have one?
America. The home of sexism and racism.
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Old 07-11-2024, 01:33 PM   #2615
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Black woman. Sexism and racism in one nice package.
Racists and sexists weren’t voting for Biden anyway. And Harris may hold the soccer moms of the upper middle class who might walk away from Biden now.

I’m often wrong on politics, but I think she’s a far better candidate than Biden, and polling suggests she’s better positioned to beat Trump.

And what are the options? Newsom can’t win this cycle (or any other, IMO, as he’s perceived as “woke,” which kills all chances). Whitmer is a great candidate but not well enough known. Michelle Obama would lose and is too smart to run for President. Pritzker presides over an economic dumpster fire of a state.

I think Harris could kick Trump’s ass in the second debate, after which the media will slot Trump into the “dementia bucket” in which it has placed Biden. That would wreck Trump.

Question is will the Party take such decisive action, or will it dither and allow Joe to run out the clock?
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America. The home of sexism and racism.
Those things have a home in lots of countries.
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Pritzker presides over an economic dumpster fire of a state.
It was an economic dumpster fire. He has raised the level to economic waste basket fire.

This state is still a mess, but Illinois saw its ninth credit rating upgrade in just over two years as of November 2023. It's going to take a while to claw out, but under his watch things have definitely gotten better. I can't remember the last time that's been said about an Illinois governor (although most of them end up in prison, so it's a low bar).
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It was an economic dumpster fire. He has raised the level to economic waste basket fire.

This state is still a mess, but Illinois saw its ninth credit rating upgrade in just over two years as of November 2023. It's going to take a while to claw out, but under his watch things have definitely gotten better. I can't remember the last time that's been said about an Illinois governor (although most of them end up in prison, so it's a low bar).
Fun fact. I was almost in a band with his cousin Dan as a singer but got dinged at the last second by Bob Ezrin for having a voice that was “too boyish”.

Dan was an incredibly nice guy. I had no idea who he was until I got a Northwestern law school catalog and saw the Pritzker name all over the place.
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Those things have a home in lots of countries.
And how many have elected a black woman as CIC?
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And how many have elected a black woman as CIC?
Passing her over would kill base turnout. Would def cost them Michigan. I’m not saying she would be a shoe in, but “not her” would have a steep climb.
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Black woman. Sexism and racism in one nice package.
And gives a damn good blow job, per Mayor Willie Brown.
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I think Harris could kick Trump’s ass in the second debate, after which the media will slot Trump into the “dementia bucket” in which it has placed Biden. That would wreck Trump.
Assassination?

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Assassination?

Game over.
Just when things seemed to be normalizing.

People need to take a fucking Xanax and stop thinking politics is a zero-sum game for the future of humanity.

The rot from which lunacy like that which we saw on Saturday stems started way back with Newt Gingrich going after the Clintons like they were enemies of the state. There's a straight line from Ken Starr to the Russiagate debacle to the Hunter Biden prosecution and through the Trump NY criminal and civil fraud cases. Banana republic behavior. A lunatic belief that everything is so fucking important, all means are on the table.

Joe gets elected this fall? The sun will rise. Trump gets elected? The sun will rise. Might it cost you in one way or another? Sure, but generally, what you lose in one area gets replaced in another.

Case in point... I scanned the salient points of 2025 Project. It's disturbing, and it's batshit crazy. But it's also entirely contingent on an administrative state being able to implement its edicts. It's dependent on the power of agencies to enforce. The very same agencies that were just stripped of a ton of power under Loper. If you look at 2025 in relation to Loper, you see the Chamber of Commerce wing of the GOP pre-emptively gelding the Heritage Foundation/Religious Right wing of it.

Yes, who is President matters to certain groups who are dependent on the state. But here we're also faced with a false choice. One can vote D and they'll make sure people like us, and the very rich, and the very poor, are catered to. While the working and middle class gets lip service and called "racists" for voting for the GOP. One can vote R and they'll make sure people like us, those richer than us, and small to midsized businesses are catered to while those mostly or totally dependent on the state are ignored.

Either way, you're voting for a sector of society to get fucked. Because neither of these parties help all the groups comprising society. Their serving of slightly different constituencies is what makes them a choice each election. Congrats if you're of the upper middle class or above - you get to choose who below loses something in service to you keeping something.

This is why I giggle when people bring morality into politics in regard to the parties' treatment of the folks at the lower rungs. Ain't nothing moral in being asked to select who gets porridge and who gets cruel. The argument one should favor the truly desperate over the hard working but still struggling is no better than the argument one should favor the hard working and still struggling over the truly desperate.
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And gives a damn good blow job, per Mayor Willie Brown.
Might help controlling Putin?
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Either way, you're voting for a sector of society to get fucked. Because neither of these parties help all the groups comprising society. Their serving of slightly different constituencies is what makes them a choice each election. Congrats if you're of the upper middle class or above - you get to choose who below loses something in service to you keeping something.

This is why I giggle when people bring morality into politics in regard to the parties' treatment of the folks at the lower rungs. Ain't nothing moral in being asked to select who gets porridge and who gets cruel. The argument one should favor the truly desperate over the hard working but still struggling is no better than the argument one should favor the hard working and still struggling over the truly desperate.
And this is one of the reasons I pop in every now and again.

Seb, I disagree with you about - hmm, perhaps - 10% on this post, but that's splitting hairs and not worth the time or effort to parse. You pretty much nailed it to the wall.

With regard to this weekend, I want accountability. If this loser in charge of Secret Service doesn't resign this week, then it will feed millions of conspiracy posts, just making everything even worse.

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