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sgtclub 10-07-2011 12:53 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 460444)
I can hear the drums! They're much funkier than I expected.
This made me chuckle. You should stick around, we desperately need your voice here.

Adder 10-07-2011 01:33 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 460452)
No zombies? Those are my favorites from the NYC protests.
No sign of zombies so far.

The crowd is growing though. I'd say a couple hundred. Signs all appear reasonably cogent (to the extent that signs like "Tax the Rich" and "Revoke Corporate Personhood" are cogent). There was one guy, who I think I have seen preaching on the street before, reading from Leviticus and describing it as "what Jesus said," which was a bit odd, but I doubt he views himself as part of the movement.

futbol fan 10-07-2011 01:53 PM
A little much, even for the New York Times
 
smh - this is just totally unfair.

Quote:
October 7, 2011, 12:27 pm

In Foreign Policy Speech, Romney Calls for a "Thousand Year Reich"

By ASHLEY PARKER

CHARLESTON, S.C. — Standing before an audience of crisply-clad, closely-shorn cadets, Mitt Romney delivered his foreign policy vision today at The Citadel, calling for a strengthened military and economy to lead the country into what he dubbed "an American Milennium,” while also accusing President Obama of weakening the nation’s image around the world. And we're going to invade Poland, too.

“This is America’s moment,” said Mr. Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts. “We should embrace the challenge, not shrink from it, not crawl into an isolationist shell, not wave the white flag of surrender, nor give in to those who assert America’s time has passed, because they are decadent internationalist traitors to our glorious homeland.”

Take a hard swipe at Mr. Obama, he added: “An eloquently justified surrender of world leadership is still surrender, and we will never surrender, never retreat, and we will fight until the last drop of pure American blood."
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...an-century/?hp

Adder 10-07-2011 02:13 PM
Re: A little much, even for the New York Times
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 460470)
Ah! Funny.

But just for a minute here:
Quote:
Mr. Romney, whose vision generally called for a strong and resolute America to lead the world, also outlined eight specific actions he would take in his first 100 days if elected president. These include strengthening naval power by increasing shipbuilding;
Really? What we need is more ships? We have essentially the only navy in the world, but it needs to be bigger (i.e., more expensive)?

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“I will launch a campaign to advance economic opportunity in Latin America, and contrast the benefits of democracy, free trade and free enterprise against the material and moral bankruptcy of the Venezuelan and Cuban model,” Mr. Romney said.
Hopefully this gets center stage in the Romney campaign. "I'm Mitt, and I will stimulate the Latin American economy. Screw the American one!"

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Addressing a small group of veterans, he called for increasing the Pentagon’s budget — moving non-combat spending to 4 percent of the gross domestic product from 3.8 percent, and growing the active duty personnel ranks by about 100,000.
And there you have it. The Romney stimulus package: more ships, missile defense, a bigger pentagon and a bigger military.

Adder 10-07-2011 02:26 PM
On appearance and female politicians.
 
Clearly no double standard in Poland.

Sidd Finch 10-07-2011 02:34 PM
Re: A little much, even for the New York Times
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 460474)
And there you have it. The Romney stimulus package: more ships, missile defense, a bigger pentagon and a bigger military.

But he's going to pay for it with tax cuts!

Pretty Little Flower 10-07-2011 03:15 PM
Re: A little much, even for the New York Times
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 460470)
You skipped the best part:

“If America is the undisputed leader of the world, it simplifies our task of imposing order and our iron will upon a chaotic world,” Mr. Romney said. “But know this: While America should work with other nations when convenient, we must always reserve the right to assert our superiority without pity or false tears, while forever protecting our vital national heritage.”

He apparently then went back to the invading Poland riff.

Hank Chinaski 10-07-2011 06:10 PM
Re: A little much, even for the New York Times
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 460477)
You skipped the best part:

“If America is the undisputed leader of the world, it simplifies our task of imposing order and our iron will upon a chaotic world,” Mr. Romney said. “But know this: While America should work with other nations when convenient, we must always reserve the right to assert our superiority without pity or false tears, while forever protecting our vital national heritage.”

He apparently then went back to the invading Poland riff.
What about where he said this, "Moderators on the Lawtalkers page mock me, but know this: I have magical blessed underwear, Flower, Ty, Hank, theirs is urine and Jizz stained. Who do you trust america, who do you trust?"

Tyrone Slothrop 10-07-2011 08:42 PM
Re: Not so sure
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460463)
Not my intent. I was agreeing with her. Women are judged on their appearance. Men are judge on things like their size and amount of money they have. Both genders are judged on their looks. What's provocative?
I misread you. She said, women get it worse than men, and I heard you saying, everyone (men and women) gets it.

sgtclub 10-08-2011 10:45 AM
Re: Not so sure
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 460490)
I misread you. She said, women get it worse than men, and I heard you saying, everyone (men and women) gets it.
Maybe on looks. But both genders are all judged on superficial things.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-08-2011 04:15 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Things are fucked up, children's edition.

Hank Chinaski 10-09-2011 12:00 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
If DOJ writes a memo that says it's okay then it's okay, right Ty? (unless the President at the time of the memo is an R, then it's impeachable)

sgtclub 10-09-2011 12:28 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Hank, why do you bother? They don't get it. If Bush was still president, we'd be hearing about impeachment for the above, the illegal wars in Libya, Iran/Contra II (read: ATF gun running), etc. There is a double standard. Just get over it.

Hank Chinaski 10-09-2011 12:29 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460502)
Hank, why do you bother? They don't get it. If Bush was still president, we'd be hearing about impeachment for the above, the illegal wars in Libya, Iran/Contra II (read: ATF gun running), etc. There is a double standard. Just get over it.
I have to write Club, they're TAKING AWAY ALL OUR RIGHTS!!!!

Hank Chinaski 10-09-2011 11:25 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
The scientists Ty claims are infallible state that algore was not the right man for the Prez job, and didn't deserve the Academy Award. Ty is on a losing streak, and I'm taking a lead from Mickey D's, turning my scoreboard to "Thousands and thousands of arguments won!"

Adder 10-10-2011 09:07 AM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460502)
Hank, why do you bother? They don't get it. If Bush was still president, we'd be hearing about impeachment for the above, the illegal wars in Libya, Iran/Contra II (read: ATF gun running), etc. There is a double standard. Just get over it.
Yes, because of all the impeaching of W and his merry band of war criminals that happened.

That said the definition of "imminent" described in that article sound more than a little fishy.

Sidd Finch 10-10-2011 10:58 AM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460502)
Hank, why do you bother? They don't get it. If Bush was still president, we'd be hearing about impeachment for the above, the illegal wars in Libya, Iran/Contra II (read: ATF gun running), etc. There is a double standard. Just get over it.
Why are you crying over an Al Qaeda member's death, instead of supporting our President? Do you hate America that much?

Tyrone Slothrop 10-10-2011 12:55 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 460501)
As you know, I disagree.

Hank Chinaski 10-10-2011 01:01 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 460510)
Why are you crying over an Al Qaeda member's death, instead of supporting our President? Do you hate America that much?
we're all on board for killing the guy, we just don't get why some people here buzzed out about a memo that says we can torture foreign nationals, but are cool about the memo saying we can kill US citizens. We're not trying to insult anyone, it's more Club and I trying to learn how to reach that state of mental awareness.

Hank Chinaski 10-10-2011 01:41 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
having ran all jews out, our friends in Egypt are now killing Christians, denying it, but military trucks are running over Copts. When is our next aid check going?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/10/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

sgtclub 10-10-2011 02:24 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 460510)
Why are you crying over an Al Qaeda member's death, instead of supporting our President? Do you hate America that much?
I'm not, but were there an R in front of his name, most here would not be so supportive.

sgtclub 10-10-2011 02:25 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 460515)
we're all on board for killing the guy, we just don't get why some people here buzzed out about a memo that says we can torture foreign nationals, but are cool about the memo saying we can kill US citizens. We're not trying to insult anyone, it's more Club and I trying to learn how to reach that state of mental awareness.
I've learned, Hank. D = good. R = bad. It really is that simple.

Adder 10-10-2011 03:11 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
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Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460518)
I've learned, Hank. D = good. R = bad. It really is that simple.
Naturally.

In addition to questioning the purported reasoning of this memo, I'm also rather perturbed about the reporting about it. Clearly, someone from the administration showed it to the Times, and then was interviewed about it off the record, in an arrangement that smells of official anonymity of the worst sort. Transparency indeed.

futbol fan 10-10-2011 03:14 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
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Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460518)
I've learned, Hank. D = good. R = bad. It really is that simple.
The conversation here was never really that elevated to begin with, but if what you want to learn is how to sink it with persistent trolling, you're with the right sensei. He taught me everything I know.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument (and because it's true) that this memo was just as much of a bullshit CYA exercise as anything ever written by John Yoo. That being the case, which Republican presidential candidate do you think will be the first to call for Obama to be impeached for killing Al-Alawki and Samir Khan?

Adder 10-10-2011 03:14 PM
Speaking of not good
 
I doubt this will ever become law, thankfully, but it's surprising that the House majority would think it's a good idea.

Perhaps they felt that the White House was threatening their status as top-of-the-heap eroders of civil liberties.

Adder 10-10-2011 03:16 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 460521)
That being the case, which Republican presidential candidate do you think will be the first to call for Obama to be impeached for killing Al-Alawki and Samir Khan?
Ron Paul.

Hank Chinaski 10-10-2011 03:26 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 460521)
The conversation here was never really that elevated to begin with, but if what you want to learn is how to sink it with persistent trolling, you're with the right sensei. He taught me everything I know.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument (and because it's true) that this memo was just as much of a bullshit CYA exercise as anything ever written by John Yoo. That being the case, which Republican presidential candidate do you think will be the first to call for Obama to be impeached for killing Al-Alawki and Samir Khan?
exactly!!! don't even attempt to answer the question. maybe obama didn't order the guy killed, or maybe, who knows, maybe the death-memo is well reasoned, heh, who is to say it isn't well-reasoned? right? and what, the dead guy is dead, so who'll challenge it? the imprisoned guy had standing. ain't no standing for a "crispy-critter."

then call me and club trolls, WTG!

AND Adder, there is a question, implicit perhaps but there.
the point from the start of these posts was to teach these socks that daily railed on against W that W was simply doing that which any president would do. The beautiful parallels between the two presidents' decisions is more than I had hoped for. But perhaps these socks have already admitted they were foolish, and thus I can stop?

Hank Chinaski 10-10-2011 03:28 PM
Re: Speaking of not good
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 460522)
I doubt this will ever become law, thankfully, but it's surprising that the House majority would think it's a good idea.

Perhaps they felt that the White House was threatening their status as top-of-the-heap eroders of civil liberties.
still, less will need an analysis of the likelihood of passage before he commits to tix for the next big overseas trip.

Adder 10-10-2011 03:29 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 460524)
don't even attempt to answer the question.
There was a question?

sgtclub 10-10-2011 04:17 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 460521)

Let's assume, for the sake of argument (and because it's true) that this memo was just as much of a bullshit CYA exercise as anything ever written by John Yoo. That being the case, which Republican presidential candidate do you think will be the first to call for Obama to be impeached for killing Al-Alawki and Samir Khan?
Ron Paul already did, although for him it actually makes sense/is not hypocritical.

sgtclub 10-10-2011 04:18 PM
Re: Speaking of not good
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 460522)
I doubt this will ever become law, thankfully, but it's surprising that the House majority would think it's a good idea.

Perhaps they felt that the White House was threatening their status as top-of-the-heap eroders of civil liberties.
On a related note, what is behind Obama's new policy on Med Pot?

sgtclub 10-10-2011 04:20 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 460524)
But perhaps these socks have already admitted they were foolish, and thus I can stop?
Never forget.

Adder 10-10-2011 04:31 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 460524)
AND Adder, there is a question, implicit perhaps but there. the point from the start of these posts was to teach these socks that daily railed on against W that W was simply doing that which any president would do. The beautiful parallels between the two presidents' decisions is more than I had hoped for. But perhaps these socks have already admitted they were foolish, and thus I can stop?
You can call it "beautiful" but I'd go with "depressing." Especially if you think that W and Obama are just doing that which any president would do, and you don't mean that from a public choice perspective.

Adder 10-10-2011 04:32 PM
Re: Speaking of not good
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460531)
On a related note, what is behind Obama's new policy on Med Pot?
I think they are denying that it is really new, but I don't know. Makes no sense to me.

Sidd Finch 10-10-2011 04:33 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460517)
I'm not, but were there an R in front of his name, most here would not be so supportive.
Were there an R in front of his name, you and Hank would be crowing about this as a victory for a resurgent America, and trashing anyone who dissented. Double-standards indeed.

sgtclub 10-10-2011 04:33 PM
Re: Speaking of not good
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 460534)
I think they are denying that it is really new, but I don't know. Makes no sense to me.
It's definitely new. They are going to start enforcement activities in CA. I don't get why he would push this.

Sidd Finch 10-10-2011 04:34 PM
Re: Speaking of not good
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 460536)
It's definitely new. They are going to start enforcement activities in CA. I don't get why he would push this.
Because some idiots are using medical pot as a front to make a bunch of drug money?

sgtclub 10-10-2011 04:35 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 460535)
Were there an R in front of his name, you and Hank would be crowing about this as a victory for a resurgent America, and trashing anyone who dissented. Double-standards indeed.
I think it is a victory. Obama has been pretty strong on the war on terror front (or whatever he is calling it to distance himself from Bush era policies). So, no, try again.

Hank Chinaski 10-10-2011 04:35 PM
Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 460535)
Were there an R in front of his name, you and Hank would be crowing about this as a victory for a resurgent America, and trashing anyone who dissented. Double-standards indeed.
You missed where we do say it is a victory for America? It is.

sgtclub 10-10-2011 04:36 PM
Re: Speaking of not good
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 460537)
Because some idiots are using medical pot as a front to make a bunch of drug money?
And . . . ?


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