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Tyrone Slothrop 08-17-2011 07:24 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 457929)
You really need to broaden your news sources :)

Google Obama attacks [enter name of candidate] and tell me what you find.

I did it with Bachmann and found that she has been attacking Obama a lot.

But reading carefully -- and really, that was a drag -- I see that Obama put out a statement reacting to her announcement that she was running -- six weeks ago. The announcement disagreed with her on policy. Is that what you're talking about?

sgtclub 08-17-2011 07:29 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 457932)
Here's what I find for Bachmann. I don't see anything, but maybe I'm missing it.

There are a few stories for Romney. Sparked primarily by the Politico I guess.

One for Perry.

Not a whole lot of there there, but it isn't nothing.

I'll give you this though, which is Obama reacting to all of the GOP candidates refusing to compromise.

You are not good at google. This was on the first page: http://www.nationalreview.com/primar...katrina-trinko

You can try it with the others.

sgtclub 08-17-2011 07:30 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457934)
His "threats against Bernake" related to the treating him "ugly
comments, and my reference to his "characterization" of Bernake did indeed relate to calling him "almost treasonous". You're getting all worked up about my focus on him charging "treason" when I didn't even quote the word?

My real focus was in my conclusion - is this presidential behavior? It's not. It's a bunch of bullshit tea party rhetoric and what the Republican primary process is all about.

Not worked up at all. You are the one that went back to dissect prior days' posts. How does it feel to be trolled for once, troll?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-17-2011 07:36 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 457938)
Not worked up at all. You are the one that went back to dissect prior days' posts. How does it feel to be trolled for once, troll?

Dude, just pointing out your ongoing reading deficits - not hard in this case. As to trolling, man, you've got to stop quoting hank, who no longer even rises to the level fo the bad joke himself. He's trying to get out from under the troll label himself, and it's not working.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-17-2011 07:41 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
On a more entertaining note, it's always good to read stories of Christian Redemption. What do you think it was about the 10th visit that made the scales fall from his eyes?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 10:07 AM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457940)
On a more entertaining note, it's always good to read stories of Christian Redemption. What do you think it was about the 10th visit that made the scales fall from his eyes?

You know, we need some good fall from grace stories, too. I think attention whore Christine O'Donnell needs to go Dan Savage in a very public way.

sgtclub 08-18-2011 11:01 AM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457946)
You know, we need some good fall from grace stories, too. I think attention whore Christine O'Donnell needs to go Dan Savage in a very public way.


Is responding to your own posts any different that responding to the others here?

sebastian_dangerfield 08-18-2011 11:05 AM

Re: D*mned teachers unions are trying to do to Texas what they've done to other state
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457811)
Don't you hate it when us liberals do stuff like repeat what these idiots say or what they've done?

The next few months are fun. We get to point out what fools these people are, and the more we point it out the better they do. Then, you guys select your next Palin.

I trust you're on board with the seccessionist governor's characterization of and threats against Bernake? Presidential behavior, right?

Perry's dumb, no doubt. But that doesn't mean he'd be any less effective in DC than our current smart President. (In the land of the blind, the one man... etc.)

Tenacity and street smarts go a long way in the practical, some would say "real" world of arm-twisting, back room dealing politics. Perry seems to have good instincts so far. He's even managed to get away with that ridiculous pray-in with limited fallout.

sebastian_dangerfield 08-18-2011 11:08 AM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 457936)
I did it with Bachmann and found that she has been attacking Obama a lot.

But reading carefully -- and really, that was a drag -- I see that Obama put out a statement reacting to her announcement that she was running -- six weeks ago. The announcement disagreed with her on policy. Is that what you're talking about?

As a citizen, I take issue with Obama responding to Bachmann. It is unpresidential. The woman is a joke, a circus clown. She is not to be taken seriously. She should be dismissed as a temporarily relevant media-created confection.

sgtclub 08-18-2011 11:09 AM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457946)
You know, we need some good fall from grace stories, too. I think attention whore Christine O'Donnell needs to go Dan Savage in a very public way.

Did you see this:

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Piers Morgan is already making light of former Delaware Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell walking out on a "Piers Morgan Tonight" interview after the host asked her for her views on gay marriage on Wednesday.

"Do you think Christine O'Donnell is going to put a witch's curse on me now?" Morgan Tweeted on Wednesday night after O'Donnell walked out of a satellite, pre-recorded interview for his CNN talk show, his Tweet a reference to her 2010 admission she "dabbled" in witchcraft.
http://news.yahoo.com/christine-odon...011635684.html

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 11:11 AM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 457950)
Is responding to your own posts any different that responding to the others here?

Ever since I gave up socking, I've felt free to respond to my own posts under my primary.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 11:15 AM

Perry promises, but can't deliver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 457951)
Perry's dumb, no doubt. But that doesn't mean he'd be any less effective in DC than our current smart President. (In the land of the blind, the one man... etc.)

Tenacity and street smarts go a long way in the practical, some would say "real" world of arm-twisting, back room dealing politics. Perry seems to have good instincts so far. He's even managed to get away with that ridiculous pray-in with limited fallout.

I'm shaking in my boots! They may nominate a man whose greatest accomplishments include pulling off a pray-in!

Did it rain, or does God hate Rick Perry?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 11:17 AM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 457953)
As a citizen, I take issue with Obama responding to Bachmann. It is unpresidential. The woman is a joke, a circus clown. She is not to be taken seriously. She should be dismissed as a temporarily relevant media-created confection.

Oh, come on. A guy's got to have a little fun.

She's also head of the tea party caucus in Congress and a significant legislative problem - for Boehner and for the country as a whole. If the Rs can't take her down a few notches in this process, it's going to be very ugly in Congress for a long time. They should thank him for the help.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 11:18 AM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 457954)

Yeah, that was the current media whoring.

Think of all the press she'd get if she moved to a free-love safe-sex-every-day-and-every-way kind of mission?

Tyrone Slothrop 08-18-2011 12:07 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 457953)
As a citizen, I take issue with Obama responding to Bachmann. It is unpresidential. The woman is a joke, a circus clown. She is not to be taken seriously. She should be dismissed as a temporarily relevant media-created confection.

I disagree with the last two sentences. She has better chances of becoming the next GOP nominee than almost anyone else, and it's because she is not a media-relevant confection. She has real political skills and what she says resonates with a lot of people, particularly the sort of people who vote in GOP primaries.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-18-2011 12:08 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 457954)

Piers Morgan: Very happy to be the center of attention on anything that's not phone-tapping-related.

Replaced_Texan 08-18-2011 12:19 PM

Re: Perry promises, but can't deliver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457958)
I'm shaking in my boots! They may nominate a man whose greatest accomplishments include pulling off a pray-in!

Did it rain, or does God hate Rick Perry?


It rained everywhere else in the damned country but here.

Perry has the same problem Bush had in that the Governor of Texas is pretty weak on the legislative side of things. EXCEPT the man has been in office so damned long that pretty much every agency, commission, board or other body in the state is PACKED with his appointees. Makes for a right pain in the ass when trying to, say, obtain reimbursement for participation in the Medicaid Women's Health Program.

And he has a hard on for highways. When he got into office, we never borrowed a dime to build roads. Now, we're $18 billion in the hole for transportation costs, and he's still salivating over the superhighway from Mexico that he's been blathering about for as long as he's been in Austin.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-18-2011 12:25 PM

Re: Perry promises, but can't deliver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 457966)
It rained everywhere else in the damned country but here.

Perry has the same problem Bush had in that the Governor of Texas is pretty weak on the legislative side of things. EXCEPT the man has been in office so damned long that pretty much every agency, commission, board or other body in the state is PACKED with his appointees. Makes for a right pain in the ass when trying to, say, obtain reimbursement for participation in the Medicaid Women's Health Program.

And he has a hard on for highways. When he got into office, we never borrowed a dime to build roads. Now, we're $18 billion in the hole for transportation costs, and he's still salivating over the superhighway from Mexico that he's been blathering about for as long as he's been in Austin.

I hear he likes trains too, but the GOP primaries will drum that out of him.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-18-2011 12:35 PM

Run!
 
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...g?w=1024&h=576

TM

Sidd Finch 08-18-2011 12:45 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 457962)
I disagree with the last two sentences. She has better chances of becoming the next GOP nominee than almost anyone else, and it's because she is not a media-relevant confection. She has real political skills and what she says resonates with a lot of people, particularly the sort of people who vote in GOP primaries.

2. I would not write Bachmann off. She's a smarter, savvier Palin. Scary.

Also, being dismissive of her would only set Obama up for the "he hates women" attack.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 12:47 PM

Re: Perry promises, but can't deliver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 457966)
It rained everywhere else in the damned country but here.

I see two possibilities, and only two possibilities:

(1) You cannot petition the lord with prayer; and
(2) The wrong guy is petitioning the lord with prayer.

Since (1) isn't conceivable, it's really got to be (2), right?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 12:49 PM

Re: Run!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 457968)
Look into my eyes!

In your professional opinion, who has better technique: Bachman or Perry?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/content.../image.img.jpg

Replaced_Texan 08-18-2011 12:50 PM

Re: Perry promises, but can't deliver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457970)
I see two possibilities, and only two possibilities:

(1) You cannot petition the lord with prayer; and
(2) The wrong guy is petitioning the lord with prayer.

Since (1) isn't conceivable, it's really got to be (2), right?

I'm a ninth generation cattle rancher in Texas. I've been petitioning the lord with prayer for rain my entire life.

And I'm clearly the wrong guy because we're talking this week about selling the rest of the herd (we sold the calves early last month). There's no hay left in Texas.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 01:02 PM

Re: Perry promises, but can't deliver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 457972)
I'm a ninth generation cattle rancher in Texas. I've been petitioning the lord with prayer for rain my entire life.

And I'm clearly the wrong guy because we're talking this week about selling the rest of the herd (we sold the calves early last month). There's no hay left in Texas.

Damn. I cannot imagine how difficult that is.

Meanwhile, up here, there's already been a second cut and the third is in the field. The growth hasn't slowed all summer.

Cletus Miller 08-18-2011 01:20 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 457937)
You are not good at google. This was on the first page: http://www.nationalreview.com/primar...katrina-trinko

You can try it with the others.

So, because he's president the spokesperson for his CAMPAIGN (not a WH employee) can't say anything about the GOP primary candidates? That's your view?

Adder 08-18-2011 01:33 PM

Re: Run!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457971)
In your professional opinion, who has better technique: Bachman or Perry?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/content.../image.img.jpg

Clearly this guy:
http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/wp-...0in%20Iowa.jpg

Tyrone Slothrop 08-18-2011 02:04 PM

Re: Run!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 457976)

"Former President Clinton now considers himself a vegan."

Adder 08-18-2011 02:26 PM

Re: Run!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 457979)

I'm sure that what's going through old Marcusss's head there in that photo is, "I sure wish this were a soy dog instead."

sgtclub 08-18-2011 02:38 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 457975)
So, because he's president the spokesperson for his CAMPAIGN (not a WH employee) can't say anything about the GOP primary candidates? That's your view?

Not can't. Shouldn't. He lowers himself by getting into the fray with each primary candidate making a splash. But whatever. The one thing he has proven to be good at is campaigning.

Cletus Miller 08-18-2011 02:59 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 457982)
Not can't. Shouldn't. He lowers himself by getting into the fray with each primary candidate making a splash. But whatever. The one thing he has proven to be good at is campaigning.

But it's not Obama. It's his campaign staff. Did Rove's nonsense *really* affect Bush's presidential-ness? (other than the part of giving him a WH job)

Adder 08-18-2011 03:00 PM

Really?
 
The defense of Perry is that he was just being "irrational?":

Quote:

On the other hand, everybody knows Mr. Perry meant no literal harm and was indulging the irrational exuberance that is one of his trademarks.
Apparently "irrational" is just fine with the WSJ, as long as you are for hard money.

Okay, actually, I guess that makes sense. Nevermind.

Adder 08-18-2011 03:27 PM

Sebby in search of a bubble
 
How about energy? And that doesn't even discuss coal.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-18-2011 03:37 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 457984)
But it's not Obama. It's his campaign staff. Did Rove's nonsense *really* affect Bush's presidential-ness? (other than the part of giving him a WH job)

I think Clubby's new thing is to just post Hank-like trolls. He is sick of getting the beat down when he seriously posts stuff that proves to be garbage.

Hank Chinaski 08-18-2011 03:48 PM

Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Anyone else think it odd that CNN has ignored Maxine Waters at the CBC event asking people if it is time to attack Obama? It seems to me a pretty significant thing, and one that could really complicate his path, yet CNN has ignored it.

It also seems to not be on the NYT page.

Tyrone Slothrop 08-18-2011 04:07 PM

Re: My God, you are an idiot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 457992)
Anyone else think it odd that CNN has ignored Maxine Waters at the CBC event asking people if it is time to attack Obama? It seems to me a pretty significant thing, and one that could really complicate his path, yet CNN has ignored it.

It also seems to not be on the NYT page.

I never think it is odd to ignore Maxine Waters.

Sidd Finch 08-18-2011 04:23 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 457984)
But it's not Obama. It's his campaign staff. Did Rove's nonsense *really* affect Bush's presidential-ness? (other than the part of giving him a WH job)

The "other than" was a problem there....

sgtclub 08-18-2011 05:20 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 457990)
I think Clubby's new thing is to just post Hank-like trolls. He is sick of getting the beat down when he seriously posts stuff that proves to be garbage.

Ha! Nice try.

ETA: Nice leadership Obama. 26% approval rate on the economy. But I'm the crazy one . . .

sgtclub 08-18-2011 05:24 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 457984)
But it's not Obama. It's his campaign staff. Did Rove's nonsense *really* affect Bush's presidential-ness? (other than the part of giving him a WH job)

You are not serious with this.

Cletus Miller 08-18-2011 05:26 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 457995)
The "other than" was a problem there....

Right, and when someone who's out there slamming the maroons running for the R nomination get a genuine WH position--rather than a strict politics position, paid for by the campaign--then there's an issue about that person speaking "as" the POTUS.

Cletus Miller 08-18-2011 05:28 PM

Re: Or was it a case of not reading posts?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtclub (Post 458006)
You are not serious with this.

Yes, I am. The campaign and the office of the POTUS are not the same. Obama (and any other POTUS) does not personally get to wear two hats, and the campaign shouldn't speak to policy (just as the WH staff should not speak to the election), but the words of the campaign staff are not the words of the President.


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