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		|  11-08-2011, 01:09 PM | #4486 |  
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					Originally Posted by sgtclub  [note to Hank]If you want me to be your set up man, you can't sell me out [/note to Hank] |  I condemned the main stream media generally; that isn't enough?
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		|  11-08-2011, 01:47 PM | #4487 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  Obama said something not nice too. |  Not really.  He said, depending on the translation, something like "You're sick of him, but I have to deal with him every day."  That sounds like Diplomat-speak for "Fuck off, he's important."
 
I realize that in Republo-fantasyland, Obama should have stood up and started screaming "You are EVIL!! You HATE JEWS!! NAZI!!!"  But that's not how world leaders actually are supposed to talk to each other.
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		|  11-08-2011, 01:59 PM | #4488 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sidd Finch  Not really.  He said, depending on the translation, something like "You're sick of him, but I have to deal with him every day."  That sounds like Diplomat-speak for "Fuck off, he's important."
 I realize that in Republo-fantasyland, Obama should have stood up and started screaming "You are EVIL!! You HATE JEWS!! NAZI!!!"  But that's not how world leaders actually are supposed to talk to each other.
 |  Does anyone actually doubt that Netanyahu is a true pain in the ass? |  
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		|  11-08-2011, 02:04 PM | #4489 |  
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					Originally Posted by Adder  Does anyone actually doubt that Netanyahu is a true pain in the ass? |  no. and i said Obama has every right to have whatever private opinion he might have, and that all he did was express his opinion in a manner he expected would remain private.
 
I believe sidd is arguing with the voices in his head again. sad.
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		|  11-08-2011, 02:07 PM | #4490 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  no. and i said Obama has every right to have whatever private opinion he might have, and that all he did was express his opinion in a manner he expected would remain private.
 I believe sidd is arguing with the voices in his head again. sad.
 |  He gets confused when you decide to go all "reasonable Hank" on us. |  
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		|  11-08-2011, 02:24 PM | #4491 |  
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				This oughta straighten things out of bit
			 
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		| The D.C. upheld the constitutionality of the health care act today (Silberman and Edwards reached the merits and voted to uphold; Kavanaugh found no jurisdiction and did not reach the merits).  Silberman’s opinion reads to me like the opinion I would expect from Justice Scalia upholding the act — notably, that one can distinguish activity from inactivity, but such a distinction is novel and not grounded in doctrine; and that “Appellants’ view ... expresses a concern for individual liberty that seems more redolent of Due Process arguments.”  Indeed, I will make a bold and perhaps foolish prediction: if Scalia is assigned the majority in the health care act case, my guess is that it will bear a considerable resemblance to the Silberman opinion.  Let me add that I think Scalia or Kennedy is the most likely author of the majority in the case.  And, yes, I do think Scalia (and Kennedy, for that matter) will vote to uphold the act. |  |  
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		|  11-08-2011, 02:57 PM | #4492 |  
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				Re: My God, you are an idiot.
			 
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		| ...a young man in California has come forward to Wired to reveal that he found not one but two different devices on his vehicle recently. 
 The 25-year-old resident of San Jose, California, says he found the first one about three weeks ago on his Volvo SUV while visiting his mother in Modesto, about 80 miles northeast of San Jose. After contacting Wired and allowing a photographer to snap pictures of the device, it was swapped out and replaced with a second tracking device. A witness also reported seeing a strange man looking beneath the vehicle of the young man’s girlfriend while her car was parked at work, suggesting that a tracking device may have been retrieved from her car.
 
 Then things got really weird when police showed up during a Wired interview with the man.
 |  Not quite sure what I think about this.
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		|  11-08-2011, 03:19 PM | #4493 |  
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					Originally Posted by Adder  One of the Volokh  conspirators that I don't know: |  That doesn't make any sense.  The way to resolve this is to count up the judges who have ruled for and against, and see who wins.
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		|  11-08-2011, 03:26 PM | #4494 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  no. and i said Obama has every right to have whatever private opinion he might have, and that all he did was express his opinion in a manner he expected would remain private.
 I believe sidd is arguing with the voices in his head again. sad.
 |  Honestly, I wasn't arguing with you -- just disagreeing with your view that Obama said anything "nasty" about Netanyahu.  it looked like pretty tame diplo-speak to me, though without knowing the tone I'm not certain.
 
The rest of the post was really in reaction to the gusher of links I found, when looking this all up, from the right-wing press, from Fox on over.
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		|  11-08-2011, 05:03 PM | #4495 |  
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 Newtmentum.  FEEL IT.
 
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		| For a while now, the political press corps has been predicting the demise of Herman Cain, and further predicting that none other than Newt Gingrich would rise to take his place, just as Trump begat Bachmann, and Bachmann begat Perry, and Perry begat Cain. I dismissed the whole thing as too preposterous even for this Republican primary. Gingrich would appear to be disqualified on the hard-to-combine grounds of both being a left deviationist – here he is endorsing action to stop climate change with Nancy Pelosi; here he is savaging Paul Ryan’s budget – and of being such a right-wing loon the party couldn’t be mad enough to nominate him. (Here he is endorsing bizarre conspiracy theories about Barack Obama’s father; many other examples could be found.) 
 But now there is actual evidence that the Gingrich resurrection may be upon us, courtesy of a PPP poll:
 
     And if Cain does eventually implode, Newt Gingrich is well positioned to become the new Republican front runner. He's running ahead of Romney in both Ohio and Mississippi, and tied with him in the Iowa district. Beyond that he is the second choice of Cain's supporters in all three of the places we polled over the weekend. In Ohio he's the second choice of 38% of Cain voters to 19% for Romney and 12% for Perry.  In Mississippi he's the second choice of 28% of Cain voters to 19% for Perry and 17% for Romney.  And in Iowa SD-18 he's the second choice of 24% of Cain voters to 22% for Bachmann and 16% for Perry.I … I … I don’t even know what to say here. It has simply never occurred to me before today that there would be even the slightest chance of the Republican Party nominating Newt Gingrich – not even in the nineties, at the height of his powers, when such speculation was rampant. Parties don’t nominate people like that. You nominate a telegenic front man, not an erratic, overbearing, morally repulsive tub of goo like Gingrich.
 Gingrich has had a massive improvement in his image over the last six months. When we polled Ohio in May his favorability was +8 at 42/34.  Now it's improved by 30 points to +38 at 62/24. And he's seen an improvement in Mississippi as well where he was at +34 (58/24) when we polled in April and is now up to +41 (63/22). Newt is definitely rising and could really find himself in good shape if Cain's troubles continue.
 |  Chait's just forgetting that this is like a round-robin tournament, where the GOP fawns over everyone in the race in succession, no matter how batty the candidate.  Except Romney.
 
Fortunately, this means that Huntsman's day is edging Ever So Closer.  Feel the Huntsmanentum. |  
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		|  11-08-2011, 05:19 PM | #4496 |  
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					Originally Posted by Gattigap  Chait's just forgetting that this is like a round-robin tournament, where the GOP fawns over everyone in the race in succession, no matter how batty the candidate.  Except Romney. |  Nope.  Romney too.  It's just that his turn is going to come at the end. |  
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		|  11-08-2011, 05:37 PM | #4497 |  
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					Originally Posted by Gattigap  Newtmentum.  FEEL IT.
 
Chait's just forgetting that this is like a round-robin tournament, where the GOP fawns over everyone in the race in succession, no matter how batty the candidate.  Except Romney.
 
Fortunately, this means that Huntsman's day is edging Ever So Closer.  Feel the Huntsmanentum. |  The preferred term among those in the know is "Huntspetus." |  
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		|  11-08-2011, 05:49 PM | #4498 |  
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				"Herman Cain isn't doing Herman Cain any favors with this press conference."
			 
 I'm not sure I've enjoyed following another current event on Twitter as much as I've enjoyed this Cain press conference today. 
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		|  11-08-2011, 05:56 PM | #4499 |  
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					Originally Posted by Adder  Nope.  Romney too.  It's just that his turn is going to come at the end. |  Pretty sure his turn started today, at least in the NYT Op-eds.
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		|  11-08-2011, 05:56 PM | #4500 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop  I'm not sure I've enjoyed following another current event on Twitter as much as I've enjoyed this Cain press conference today. |  For those of us who won't watch it, any details?
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