Election 2010: Teabaggin' the Ds & Rs

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Dear Penske,

Rolling Stone is not a blog. It is a magazine with a web site.

Yours in technological excitement,

T.S.

Difference?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I think I speak for the entire board when I say we all wish you start writing your own thoughts down, instead of simply copying others thoughts.

Moderator (n.) - He that offers grist for discussion.

I like Ty and would no doubt find his personal anecdotes interesting, but a Ty Slothrop board might not make it.

It might also be difficult for him to find blogs about himself.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

There is no serious Republican plan about how to control healthcare spending. Instead, the party went for short-term political advantage by committing to defending Medicare against cuts. We can't afford that strategy, either.

The Republicans in Congress understand this. They lost the battle last year. They know HCR is not going to be repealed. It's a political tactic, not a policy question anymore. It would be nice if the GOP moved on to the question of how to make HCR actually work better, but their base will not let them, so they have to continue the charade.

Like I said: Do nothing. Let it implode and leave the market to figure it out. I could live with that, frankly, as I have many HC providers in the family. But yes, that would be somewhat difficult for many.

Your second point I agree with entirely. It's the dumbest waste of time imaginable. The only silver lining is it keeps them from doing anything else.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

If you were a Republican politician, you could say:

"I didn't like HCR and think that it will be more expensive than the CBO's forecasts, but I take its supporters at their word that controlling costs is essential, and look forward to improving the law so that we can get our long-term entitlements problem under control."

Or, you could say:

"We need to repeal Obamacare to keep the government's hands off Medicare."

It's too bad the first kind of Republican can't get elected in the current Republican party. It makes the country's problems that much harder to solve, and it takes a strain of moderate conservative thought completely out of the equation.

Again, I agree. And it seems to me that if you want to stop Obamacare, the best way to do it with little resistance is to give it death by a thousand amendments quietly peeling its scope back w/o getting media coverage, and defunding as much of it as possible. Alas, the GOP we have is all about theater. They want the grand loss - to play the ideological martyrs for the idiots who think it can be repealed. What can you do... Govt's busted. Terminal, really.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Like I said: Do nothing. Let it implode and leave the market to figure it out. I could live with that, frankly, as I have many HC providers in the family. But yes, that would be somewhat difficult for many.

When would it implode? And how would it do so without a broader default that would have myriad other serious consequences that even you might find hard to "live with?"

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

quietly peeling its scope back w/o getting media coverage, and defunding as much of it as possible..

What color is the sky in your world? Say what you will about the GOP we have, but they know both that (1) they can't do this without media coverage, and (2) they don't control the Senate or the White House.

I think he's wrong about where public perception will come out, but Hank's vision is at least attached to reality.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

How much do you think it would cost me to buy www dot spurious dot com? That would be fun to own.

I think this one would be worth more:

http://spurious.info/

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Difference?

You'll have to ask Hank and Penske why they get so excited about the medium instead of the message.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

It might also be difficult for him to find blogs about himself.

I only know of two or three.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Moderator (n.) - He that offers grist for discussion.

I like Ty and would no doubt find his personal anecdotes interesting, but a Ty Slothrop board might not make it.

It might also be difficult for him to find blogs about himself.

I invented this board on infirm.

[Penske 2.0]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

You'll have to ask Hank and Penske why they get so excited about the medium instead of the message.

I'm not sure it's the medium. The nytimes, worldnetdaily.com and the blogs you cite are all delivered in the same medium,i.e. Internet content; only one of three has a message that has credibility, notwithstanding jayson Blair.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

I'm not sure it's the medium. The nytimes, worldnetdaily.com and the blogs you cite are all delivered in the same medium,i.e. Internet content; only one of three has a message that has credibility, notwithstanding jayson Blair.

I agree with you that the underlying credibility of the source matters much more than whether he/she/it is publishing as a newspaper/magazine/blog/etc.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I agree with you that the underlying credibility of the source matters much more than whether he/she/it is publishing as a newspaper/magazine/blog/etc.

people that understand how to run companies and who make decisions that effect important change realize that associating oneself with something spurious if not the act of a leader. e.g. I know I don't need to caution Penske not to post shaky cites.

no offense

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

What color is the sky in your world? Say what you will about the GOP we have, but they know both that (1) they can't do this without media coverage, and (2) they don't control the Senate or the White House.

I think he's wrong about where public perception will come out, but Hank's vision is at least attached to reality.

It's preferable to, and more likely to find success, than this imbecilic symbolic vote, isn't it? And that's the comparison I was making.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0

I invented this board on infirm.

Necessity is the mother of invention. I don't remember who invented it, but there were a number who made it necessary.