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Hank Chinaski · 12-15-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

True, but that doesn't make a difference for the economy.

Once again, you're assuming that there are good investment opportunities out there, limited only availability of capital. But that's not the world we're living in right. People want to save, not invest, because the world looks risky and they don't see good opportunities to invest in. Because there's no demand.

how come I can't find a parking spot at the mall?

LessinSF · 12-15-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

I hate to ask you a serious question, but how does cutting public sector jobs make it less likely that someone will offshore jobs?

Increased competition for private sector jobs here - drives down wages - makes Vietnam less enticing.

Unless those postal workers are all secret entrepeneurs.

LessinSF · 12-15-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

how come I can't find a parking spot at the mall?

Because you read crappy infographics at the WSJ:

Adder · 12-15-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

how come I can't find a parking spot at the mall?

Because demand is back to a point where it meets the greatly-reduced amount of mall space since 2007?

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-15-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

how come I can't find a parking spot at the mall?

Someone ran a "help wanted" ad and everyone is down there to interview for the job.

Sidd Finch · 12-15-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF

Increased competition for private sector jobs here - drives down wages - makes Vietnam less enticing.

Unless those postal workers are all secret entrepeneurs.

Or unless they expect any employer to pay legal minimum wage and social security.

Sidd Finch · 12-15-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF

Because you read crappy infographics at the WSJ:

Has the WSJ always run USA Today-type graphics? I've only noticed this recently.

sgtclub · 12-15-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

True, but that doesn't make a difference for the economy.

Sure it does, it frees up capital to be spent in the way you want it to be (i.e., Keynesian).

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Once again, you're assuming that there are good investment opportunities out there, limited only availability of capital. But that's not the world we're living in right. People want to save, not invest, because the world looks risky and they don't see good opportunities to invest in. Because there's no demand.

That is what I'm seeing. I'm seeing people start to move away from and end of the world view, to trying to beat inflation.

Adder · 12-15-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

Sure it does, it frees up capital to be spent in the way you want it to be (i.e., Keynesian).

That is what I'm seeing. I'm seeing people start to move away from and end of the world view

I hope you are right.

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to trying to beat inflation.

If that's the motivation of those you are seeing, I am not encouraged that you are right.

Tyrone Slothrop · 12-15-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

Sure it does, it frees up capital to be spent in the way you want it to be (i.e., Keynesian).

Not now it doesn't, with Congress trying to balance the budget. (Seriously, the idiocy of trying to find offsetting spending to balance out the cost of the payroll tax break is mind-numbing, in the way that ironweed was getting at.)

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That is what I'm seeing. I'm seeing people start to move away from and end of the world view, to trying to beat inflation.

If that were true, then you wouldn't need to force them to invest on the private side by taking away the option to invest in government bonds. The whole reason there's a flight to safety is that they don't see attractive investment options. If people are really moving away from that view to looking for ways to beat inflation, then (a) they'll find them, and interest rates will go up as there's less demand for safe investments and more for returns, or (b) they won't find them because there's no demand. In either case, it's crazy to say that it makes things better to take away their ability to put their money somewhere safe.

In other words, I hope you're right, but we wouldn't have these problems if you were right.

Hank Chinaski · 12-15-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Someone ran a "help wanted" ad and everyone is down there to interview for the job.

Damn. So even if I found a spot and got in I probably wouldn't have gotten the job?

Sidd Finch · 12-15-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Damn. So even if I found a spot and got in I probably wouldn't have gotten the job?

I see that one "g.o." is your max for the day.

sgtclub · 12-16-2011, 12:14 AM

RIP Christopher Hitchens

SlaveNoMore · 12-17-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtclub

RIP Christopher Hitchens

I logged in to see if anyone was going to bring this up.

Enemy to tyrants. Champion of liberty. Opponent of religion. A notorious drunk. Most of all, someone that would actually cause me to buy Vanity Fair, if his articles weren't available in full on-line. If any writer could pull together the divergent folks on this board, I'd think it was Hitch.

In these times, we need more honest writers like Hitchens. Love him, hate him, both.

Godspeed*

*Although, I presume he'd tell me to piss off if I said that.

Hank Chinaski · 12-17-2011, 06:27 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...fighting-back/

Funny, those people who have actually created companies and jobs tend to agree with me, the only one here who has created a company and jobs. Maybe some of these job creators need to read more blogs? Any suggestions?

p.s. Harry Reid said "my job is to create jobs?" wow. there's a worker who should be canned, eh?