Full of impotent rage

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

He's continued his career. That's fine. It's between him and his fans. But the Grammys don't need to reward him by putting them on their show.

I don't know how long exactly. Five years, maybe?

I can't believe you guys watch the grammy's.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Adder

Because we are talking about performing at the Grammys. His bullshit messed with their show.

The offense is the same. The context is different for the Grammys.

He's continued his career. That's fine. It's between him and his fans. But the Grammys don't need to reward him by putting them on their show.

I don't know how long exactly. Five years, maybe?

I think everything you said above is ridiculous. And the Grammys aren't rewarding him. They're benefiting from his presence as much as he is from performing on them.

TM

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by hank chinaski

i can't believe you guys watch the grammy's.

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[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

And what difference does it make that he hit her before the Grammys? If you're going to get up on your soapbox, be consistent. Because if it offends you that he's performing at the Grammys based on that but it wouldn't offend you as much if he had done it 6 months prior to the Grammys, then there's something wrong with you.

Generally, I agree with your view on all this -- the guy was young and did something stupid, he paid the consequences that the system imposes, and it's ridiculous to suggest that he should be black-balled.

But I don't get your point above. His stupid fuck-up was at a particularly bad time for the Grammys. If they want to forgive him, that's fine, but I could also see them being particularly concerned, or pissed off, or vindictive towards him because he did something that messed with the show.

Put differently, I'd be less forgiving of a young football player who did something stupid, and got arrested or hurt or whatever, if what he did interfered with his ability to be in a playoff game* than I would if the stupid incident happened over the summer.


*Thank you, Jim Harbaugh, for allowing me to speak about football players being in playoff games once again. Even if we didn't quite get where we would have liked.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I can't believe you guys watch the grammy's.

I have spent more time thinking about today's Lyon-Apoel matchup in the Champions League than I have about the Grammies, and I haven't spent very much time thinking about Lyon-Apoel. Though the plucky Cypriots have Aílton back.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

For the upcoming family vacation, I tried to rent a SUV, but am informed that they're out of SUV, and was told I have a four-door Jeep Wrangler. I haven't been in a jeep in a long time. Will I be able to seat my three children (one booster seat) in the back row? Will there be any room for luggage (we won't have much)?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

But I don't get your point above. His stupid fuck-up was at a particularly bad time for the Grammys. If they want to forgive him, that's fine, but I could also see them being particularly concerned, or pissed off, or vindictive towards him because he did something that messed with the show.

Put differently, I'd be less forgiving of a young football player who did something stupid, and got arrested or hurt or whatever, if what he did interfered with his ability to be in a playoff game* than I would if the stupid incident happened over the summer.

Context. I don't understand why Adder is offended because of the timing. If the people in charge of the Grammys made a statement like, "Chris Brown physically injured one of our Grammy performers and a beloved singer, while also damaging our show by robbing us of performances we were counting on for our show at the last minute; he also managed to distract the many fans who were interested in celebrating the achievements of their favorite artists a few years ago, and for those reasons, we are not comfortable giving him a stage to perform," I would understand. But as far as Adder taking offense is concerned, what difference does it make when it happened?

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

For the upcoming family vacation, I tried to rent a SUV, but am informed that they're out of SUV, and was told I have a four-door Jeep Wrangler. I haven't been in a jeep in a long time. Will I be able to seat my three children (one booster seat) in the back row? Will there be any room for luggage (we won't have much)?

I drive a 4 door wrangler. Lots of luggage room - more than in the usual SUV which has another row of seats. We usually put 2 dogs and a family's worth of luggage in our back easily. We also put three kids, older than yours, in the back seat all the time. Note the two door back seat is much smaller, and you wouldn't have room in the 2 door.

The big question: soft top or three piece removable hard top? Get the six speaker sound bar to mount on the roll bar, and make sure you have some Greatful Dead paraphanalia or a dream-catcher to hang off the mirror. If you need a good vacation time craft for the kids, have them tie-die a wheel cover.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

What do you think?: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...all&id=8542447

TM

[Atticus Grinch]

High Windows

When I see a couple of kids
And guess he’s fucking her and she’s
Taking pills or wearing a diaphragm,
I know this is paradise

Everyone old has dreamed of all their lives —
Bonds and gestures pushed to one side
Like an outdated combine harvester,
And everyone young going down the long slide

To happiness, endlessly. I wonder if
Anyone looked at me, forty years back,
And thought, That’ll be the life;
No God any more, or sweating in the dark

About hell and that, or having to hide
What you think of the priest. He
And his lot will all go down the long slide
Like free bloody birds. And immediately

Rather than words comes the thought of high windows:
The sun-comprehending glass,
And beyond it, the deep blue air, that shows
Nothing, and is nowhere, and is endless.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

What do you think?: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...all&id=8542447

TM

Would make Graham's head explode. He hates Manning pretty intently.

I dunno. Schaub is pretty good when he's healthy, and Yates shows a lot of promise. I'm not too certain that Linert will stick around much longer. Despite our really good track record in breaking them, we have some pretty good quarterbacks. Obviously, Manning was elite. But is he still? A year out is a long time.

Andre Johnson's opinion probably would be the one I'd be most interested in.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Would make Graham's head explode. He hates Manning pretty intently.

Why? Seems like a strange guy to inspire hate. Rather vanilla.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

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TM

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

if notbob were here, he'd remind us it is never okay for a man to hit a lady, or shoot someone to death for that matter. he would worry whether this guy who got on the grammy show was really sorry, and he'd wonder if he wasn't a bit of a bad egg. But he'd also not want us all ganging up against the guy. That's wrong too.

You forgot to mention that Not Bob would probably also compliment Rihanna on her hairstyle at some point in the conversation. Otherwise, you've pretty much got it covered.

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Adder

But then I am a FEEBLE-BRAINED EUNUCH.

Visit Japan. Easy pickins.

LessinHiroshima (although the pick in was in Kyoto)