Stuck on Repeats

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I didn't say that case, I specifically referred to the jurisprudence in the area, because the law changed as the Court became less willing to sacrifice principal in the name of expedience. Ask the Nazis in Skokie in the 1970s.

Cite, please. Brandenberg is still good law. The question has never been whether anti-sedition laws are legal or illegal. It's whether the law prohibits more than incitement to imminent lawless action. If yes, it's unconstitutional. If no, it's not unconstitutional, whether or not the prohibited speech was seditious.

And Julius and Ethel were convicted of espionage. Which kind of is okay since they were guilty of espionage.

Espionage is a speech act. The First Amendment protects speech acts. Anti-espionage laws are constitutional not because they don't implicate the First Amendment, but because national security is a compelling state interest that overrides individual private interests. It should not be news to anyone here that the Bill of Rights does not prohibit jack shit -- it merely creates areas of heightened judicial scrutiny. Once a government shows the requisite state interest, bingo, no violation. I was making the point that "make no law" doesn't mean "make no law except to regulate time/place/manner." It doesn't even mean "make no law against." All is really means is "make no law unless you really really have to, and ask your local federal judge for permission." That's Con Law in a nutshell.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Espionage is a speech act.

Wait. I thought freedom of speech was all about the freedom to hear. Isn't the whole point of espionage not having anyone listening in?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

Once a government shows the requisite state interest, bingo, no violation.

I really hope to never hear you say "Bingo!"

I expect bad things are usually happening when you utter that word.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I didn't say that case, I specifically referred to the jurisprudence in the area, because the law changed as the Court became less willing to sacrifice principal in the name of expedience. Ask the Nazis in Skokie in the 1970s.

And Julius and Ethel were convicted of espionage. Which kind of is okay since they were guilty of espionage.

I know some Japanese guys circa 1940 who would suggest that Skokie was not a big change from earlier jurisprudence.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I know some Japanese guys circa 1940 who would suggest that Skokie was not a big change from earlier jurisprudence.

Is that the line of jurisprudence that says those who send people to camps based on race win?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Is that the line of jurisprudence that says those who send people to camps based on race win?

A small sacrifice of principal to expedience.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

A small sacrifice of principal to expedience.

The principal that was sacrificed by allowing the nazis to march was?

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Wait. I thought freedom of speech was all about the freedom to hear. Isn't the whole point of espionage not having anyone listening in?

I used to have a bong like that. A couple of minutes with that monster, and your free speech was most definitely infringed upon, dude!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

I used to have a bong like that. A couple of minutes with that monster, and your free speech was most definitely infringed upon, dude!

several women have compared my bong to a big anaconda.

edit: shit autocorrect changed to "bong?" nwtaf?

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Wait. I thought freedom of speech was all about the freedom to hear. Isn't the whole point of espionage not having anyone listening in?

Looking at that picture, I can almost smell Don Adams' breath.

Edited to add: he had a sandwich for lunch. With cheese.

[Adder]

From the food truck girl incident, yesterday I ran into Abba in the skyways, who warned me of the danger that she may throw up on me.

It's good to get back to normal.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick

I talked with Leonard Cohen once. If turning beet red and saying "I think you're great. Can I have your autograph" counts as talking. We discussed the mechanics of signing an autograph with a faulty pen. Does that count as discussing ideas?

Considering he's probably responsible for more suicides than 90% of living artists, I imagine it's best to avoid lengthy discussion of ideas with Cohen.

(Thought IRL I always suspected he might be an endless fount of frivolity, and the darkness all shtick, or mere artist persona.)

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Wait. I thought freedom of speech was all about the freedom to hear. Isn't the whole point of espionage not having anyone listening in?

This looks like something people would use to recycle bong hits.

Yes, this practice exists. I knew people who used a tube to pass an exhaled hit from one person to another. No idea if it works. It was too disgusting to try. And anyone that cheap shouldn't have any drugs, IMO.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I introduced Werner Herzog to Curious George.

Werner Herzog narrating Klaus Kinski's "Fitzcarraldo Fight": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPKODzv1PD4

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Considering he's probably responsible for more suicides than 90% of living artists, I imagine it's best to avoid lengthy discussion of ideas with Cohen.

(Thought IRL I always suspected he might be an endless fount of frivolity, and the darkness all shtick, or mere artist persona.)

He also killed Jeff Buckley for doing a better version of "Hallelujah". He's a cold bastard.