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The opposition has been tried. See the Baltics, Ireland, Greece, Spain, Italy and heck, even Germany lately. There's plenty of evidence for the effects of hard money and austerity policies over the last four years, and it isn't pretty.

Read about Ireland lately?

Saying that ignores the very real long-term costs of leaving labor idle, which is bad for both those who are idle and the economy as a whole.

They're going to be left idle either way. You want them to be so for longer than necessary? Have at it. I say, we tried propping - didn't work. Let it crater. As it does, the rest of the world craters with us. Out of the ashes we get a grand rebuild.

It is another debate entirely. Personally, I'm skeptical that it would to much for employment and innovation, even if it has other merits, but it isn't happening anyway.

True. But I disagree. These global monstrosities crowd out competition and are way too cozy with the govt. This is not good economically or in terms of the Republic's civic health.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Read about Ireland lately?

Yes, having fobbed off some of the ill-advised guarantees of debts to foreigners, things are looking better. They probably would have looked better still had Ireland gone the way of Iceland in the beginning, but it didn't really have that option.

They're going to be left idle either way.

Yes, it's easy to make your logic unsailable if you simply assume your conclusion.

Out of the ashes we get a grand rebuild.

Only in fantasy land.

True. But I disagree. These global monstrosities crowd out competition and are way too cozy with the govt. This is not good economically or in terms of the Republic's civic health.

I actually don't disagree with you, but there are few Teddy Roosevelts out there and his party seems to have been taken over with people who have confused campaign rhetoric about the evils of government for actual policy.